Simhadri Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Memo to self: Buy more gold. Buy house early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simhadri Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Memo to self: Buy more gold. Buy house early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Big turnout does seem to be materialising in London: Putney was 72% in 2017 and 77% yesterday: Labour Fleur Anderson 22,780 Green Fergal McEntee 1,133 Conservative Will Sweet 18,006 Liberal Democrats Sue Wixley 8,548 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bear.getting.old Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said: No you forget that these thickos who voted Brexshit said their vote was nothing to do with economics and being finacially poorer. Just wondering how your remain alliance is going? I think the people who were 'thickos' are quite obvious, not brexiteers thats for sure. But I expect you not to take the economic benefits or jobs that were created by brexit because you don't believe in them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, bear.getting.old said: Just wondering how your remain alliance is going? I think the people who were 'thickos' are quite obvious, not brexiteers thats for sure. But I expect you not to take the economic benefits or jobs that were created by brexit because you don't believe in them Must be great being a retired old boomer. Triple lock et al. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Simhadri said: Buy house early. I'm inclined to agree that prices are likely to remain high or perhaps increase*, but I'm curious to know more about your reasoning here. * Remember though, that in 2015 estate agents were euphoric about the Conservative victory, predicting prime London would double in 5 years! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kosmin said: I'm inclined to agree that prices are likely to remain high or perhaps increase*, but I'm curious to know more about your reasoning here. * Remember though, that in 2015 estate agents were euphoric about the Conservative victory, predicting prime London would double in 5 years! A large majority government never works for the best of the common man. You are looking at at least 10 more years of Tory rule. In this time a good many who voted BJ will be financially fleeced. Allah willing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Forecast updated to Conservative 357. Will there be enough Brexiters to put pressure on Boorish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Beans Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 What a shame... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simhadri Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: What a shame... Chuka has been chucked out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bear.getting.old Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: What a shame... Hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahah:-) Justice has been done. Lying weasel snak,e party flop flopper, sad excuse for a man and MP. That really makes my morning. It hasn't gone very well for the undemocratic lib dems has it or any remain parties really Edited December 13, 2019 by bear.getting.old Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: What a shame... Conservative Nickie Aiken 17,049 Labour Gordon Nardell 11,624 Liberal Democrats Chuka Umunna 13,096 Hard to escape the conclusion that this was terrible tactical voting fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simhadri Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Sedgefield CON gain. New Labour MUST rise. No ******ing excuses from Momentum. With all due respect, Momentum should get ****** out of Labour and set their shop in LibDems. You've ruined Labour enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Beans Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Corbyn effectively gone... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simhadri Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave Beans said: Corbyn effectively gone... Momentum also should be gone and leave Labour to socialists. Neil Kinnock spent 8 years fighting these idiots to bring it to a better shape. Then Blair inherited and improved upon. Its a ******ing long path for Labour from here unless Boris and Tories ****** up royally in next 5 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rantnrave Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Bye bye Swinson. Can go to bed now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bear.getting.old Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, Kosmin said: Conservative Nickie Aiken 17,049 Labour Gordon Nardell 11,624 Liberal Democrats Chuka Umunna 13,096 Hard to escape the conclusion that this was terrible tactical voting fail. As I said to the remoaners on here bitching, they can try to tactically vote as much as they like, it won't make any difference because the amjority want brexit, more than in the referendum, so it will fail. And it did and Jo Swinson out now too. Great night. I laughed so hard to see the back of that undemocratic cow who was so sure cancelling brexit was a vote winner! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottbeard Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 35 minutes ago, Kosmin said: Conservative Nickie Aiken 17,049 Labour Gordon Nardell 11,624 Liberal Democrats Chuka Umunna 13,096 Hard to escape the conclusion that this was terrible tactical voting fail. Only if you think both Labour and Lib Dem voters care more about “not Tory” than about their actual preferred party, which not all do. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Labour voters for example would prefer a Tory to a defector. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, bear.getting.old said: As I said to the remoaners on here bitching, they can try to tactically vote as much as they like, it won't make any difference because the amjority want brexit, more than in the referendum, so it will fail. And it did and Jo Swinson out now too. Great night. I laughed so hard to see the back of that undemocratic cow who was so sure cancelling brexit was a vote winner! MonsieurCropperCrutch was right: you are a moron. Do you really think there weren't 4,000 of those 11,624 Labour voters who were remainers and could potentially have voted Lib Dem? The SNP are as opposed to Brexit as the Lib Dems, so that wasn't why Swinson lost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bear.getting.old Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) I have no idea what frenchface might have said or most of you for that matter, because I only come here to tell you remoaners some cold hard true facts, and then I disappear back to the rest of HPC. So to leave you to carry on wallowing in your little reomoaner sad world of bitching and non acceptance of leaving. Edited December 13, 2019 by bear.getting.old Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, scottbeard said: Only if you think both Labour and Lib Dem voters care more about “not Tory” than about their actual preferred party, which not all do. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Labour voters for example would prefer a Tory to a defector. That seems unlikely when you consider the history of that seat. There wasn't a tradition of Labour or Lib Dem doing particularly well. They have done a lot better recently because of opposition to Brexit in this seat. It seems likely that a lot of them would have wanting to vote for either to keep the Conservative out. It would only have required 34% of the Labour vote to switch to Lib Dem to achieve that. Only 28% if the 728 Green voters voted for Lib Dems as well. Edited December 13, 2019 by Kosmin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonJop12 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just woken up to the miserable news. However, to quote Theresa May ‘nothing has changed’. There is still a party (and an electorate) hostile to my aspirations for home ownership. As a Millennial, this vote has only confirmed that political solutions to intergenerational inequality will not be forthcoming all that soon. I will continue to save and will reign in Xmas spending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bear.getting.old Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kosmin said: MonsieurCropperCrutch was right: you are a moron. Do you really think there weren't 4,000 of those 11,624 Labour voters who were remainers and could potentially have voted Lib Dem? The SNP are as opposed to Brexit as the Lib Dems, so that wasn't why Swinson lost. I'll answer that though. You forget that a lot of Scotland voted leave, because Wee Jimmy Krankie and her cronies Ian and co make out that none of the country voted to leave. But they did.... Corbyn is anti EU and Labour campaigned on a leaving the EU manifesto. Therefore you cannot claim that these Labour 11k votes were for remain. It's all pie in the sky for you and mickey mouse calculations and wishful thinking. The Lib dems performance so far tonight shows that their cancel brexit policy is not what the public desire. It was the same in the last election too. Wake up face facts get on with your life, sometimes you do loose. Accept it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bear.getting.old Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Best news since Thatchers days. I'm excited for the future. Brilliant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kosmin Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, scottbeard said: Only if you think both Labour and Lib Dem voters care more about “not Tory” than about their actual preferred party, which not all do. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Labour voters for example would prefer a Tory to a defector. What about Kensington? Cons get a little over 100 more votes than Labour. Lib Dems get 9,000. Were 200 of those Lib Dems remainers who wanted to stop Brexit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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