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35 minutes ago, IMHAL said:

I've been remembering those slogans all night long.......

I thought it said : Boris for Brexit.😝

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1 hour ago, winkie said:

Because of this referendum all everyone is thinking of is staying or leaving......when there are so many other issues that require addressing and being ignored or kicked into the grass.....out of the three conventional parties two are split down the middle, only one has a definite destination.......the other option for those with an alternative view is Nigel's new way......this referendum and how it was conducted has changed the whole history of politics.... a massive shake up.;)

Do you think politics in the UK needs a massive shake up or were you happy with the status quo?

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27 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

Do you think politics in the UK needs a massive shake up or were you happy with the status quo?

To be honest I think things needed to change but not like it has......imo, looking back having an in/out referendum was not necessary and has done more harm than good, it has brought an issue that was not an issue to most people into the fore....... splits in political parties projected to the citizens of the country splitting them, scapegoating and blame on things that were entirely in our hands to rectify.....change but done differently....fail to plan, plan to fail.....not enough intelligent thought put into it from the beginning, can mean unforseen consequences is the consequence.......not all bad, but it could have been done differently.;)

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43 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

Do you think politics in the UK needs a massive shake up or were you happy with the status quo?

The status quo has never been fit for purpose and recent events have made that even more clear......whatever your view on Farage his position on the status quo as demonstrated on the Marr Show...reminded me of Cromwells view as he dissolved parliament...I believe not just one time.....and by the way Marr imo made an absolute derriere out of himself

 

 

Edited by Spindler

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40 minutes ago, winkie said:

To be honest I think things needed to change but not like it has......imo, looking back having an in/out referendum was not necessary and has done more harm than good, it has brought an issue that was not an issue to most people into the fore....... splits in political parties projected to the citizens of the country splitting them, scapegoating and blame on things that were entirely in our hands to rectify.....change but done differently....fail to plan, plan to fail.....not enough intelligent thought put into it from the beginning, can mean unforseen consequences is the consequence.......not all bad, but it could have been done differently.;)

Irrespective of brexit we are both here posting on HPC. Imagine a world where 20 years ago Labour setup policies to build Council houses.

10 minutes ago, Spindler said:

The status quo has never been fit for purpose and recent events have made that even more clear......whatever your view on Farage his position on the status quo as demonstrated on the Marr Show...reminded me of Cromwells view as he dissolved parliament...I believe not just one time.....and by the way Marr imo made an absolute derriere out of himself

 

 

 

Rock the kasbah

 

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18 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said:

And now for the good news...

Britain came last in the Eurovision song contest :D.

Personally, I regard this as a badge of honour.

I do suspect that the contest has become politicised and some of our "nil points" may reflect the contempt in which we are now held by our neighbours.

Or maybe our music was just carp, I didn't hear any of the show luckily.

Btw while checking out the footie on Saturday I was amused to see an advertisement from some enterprising bookie offering odds for Netherlands to win and UK to come last. I am even more amused now.

 

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1 hour ago, Bruce Banner said:

And now for the good news...

Britain came last in the Eurovision song contest :D.

We got 3 points in the public vote.

Germany got 0 points in the public vote.

🙂

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1 hour ago, Bluestone59 said:

Personally, I regard this as a badge of honour.

I do suspect that the contest has become politicised and some of our "nil points" may reflect the contempt in which we are now held by our neighbours.

Or maybe our music was just carp, I didn't hear any of the show luckily.

Btw while checking out the footie on Saturday I was amused to see an advertisement from some enterprising bookie offering odds for Netherlands to win and UK to come last. I am even more amused now.

 

The UK produces some of the most popular music in the world.

The issue is that the BBC does a terrible job of choosing songs and artists.

There has been some lamentable carp over the years.

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Wogan washed his hands of it way back....they say they are apolitical...but its all politics in the voting ...and they get upset about madonna's little stunt......calling it political.....it belongs left  in the 70's....as per Wogan he said it was a farce ...it was and it is.....

 

And imo each country should sing in their own language....nicking English...because it's the cool language to sing in makes the whole thing pointless...

it is possible to win in a language other than English....a dutchman representing his country singing in English is just a crock of ****

 

 

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12 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

The UK produces some of the most popular music in the world.

The issue is that the BBC does a terrible job of choosing songs and artists.

There has been some lamentable carp over the years.

image.png.683252a5d81ac6251572e6d82393f949.png even bigger than this CARP ?

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16 minutes ago, Spindler said:

Wogan washed his hands of it way back....they say they are apolitical...but its all politics in the voting ...and they get upset about madonna's little stunt......calling it political.....it belongs left  in the 70's....as per Wogan he said it was a farce ...it was and it is.....

 

And imo each country should sing in their own language....nicking English...because it's the cool language to sing in makes the whole thing pointless...

it is possible to win in a language other than English....a dutchman representing his country singing in English is just a crock of ****

 

 

The UK popular vote went to Norway, and I think they actually won the popular vote across Europe. It had Scandinavian Viking style yodelling. That’s what we want 🙂 

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1 minute ago, GrizzlyDave said:

The UK popular vote went to Norway, and I think they actually won the popular vote across Europe. It had Scandinavian Viking style yodelling. That’s what we want 🙂 

they should go back to doing what they did best lol

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25 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

The UK produces some of the most popular music in the world.

The issue is that the BBC does a terrible job of choosing songs and artists.

There has been some lamentable carp over the years.

Over subsequent years, there has been this path of pumping out boyband-lite dross (with the obvious key change)...the UK should be better than that...

Edited by Dave Beans

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38 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

The UK produces some of the most popular music in the world.

The issue is that the BBC does a terrible job of choosing songs and artists.

There has been some lamentable carp over the years.

Just be thankful for small mercies, at least Theresa May can't crow about "another British success" at next weeks PMQs. 

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3 hours ago, GrizzlyDave said:

Do you think politics in the UK needs a massive shake up or were you happy with the status quo?

I doubt Brexit will give UK politics a massive shakeup. Once the end state is reached the Brexit Party/UKIP/ERG will shrivel away and it will be back to LibLabCon as usual.

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16 minutes ago, Spindler said:

Wogan washed his hands of it way back....they say they are apolitical...but its all politics in the voting ...and they get upset about madonna's little stunt......calling it political.....it belongs left  in the 70's....as per Wogan he said it was a farce ...it was and it is.....

 

And imo each country should sing in their own language....nicking English...because it's the cool language to sing in makes the whole thing pointless...

it is possible to win in a language other than English....a dutchman representing his country singing in English is just a crock of ****

 

 

The UK popular vote went to Norway, and I think they actually won the popular vote across Europe. It had Scandinavian Viking style yodelling. That’s what we want 🙂 

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27 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said:

Just be thankful for small mercies, at least Theresa May can't crow about "another British success" at next weeks PMQs. 

Lol

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8 minutes ago, Dorkins said:

I doubt Brexit will give UK politics a massive shakeup. Once the end state is reached the Brexit Party/UKIP/ERG will shrivel away and it will be back to LibLabCon as usual.

i regret you're probably right and the irony is the Brexit debate will have resurrected the Lib Dems...you know the brexit they hate so much

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9 minutes ago, Dorkins said:

I doubt Brexit will give UK politics a massive shakeup. Once the end state is reached the Brexit Party/UKIP/ERG will shrivel away and it will be back to LibLabCon as usual.

Maybe. This time it feels different. If Brexit doesn’t shake it up - I’m not sure what will! 

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let's face that overgrown school boy Clegg should never ever had got in bed with that other overgrown schoolboy Cameron.....he destroyed his party and was left with how many mp's in 2015 ?

Cab for the liberal party MP's outside Mr Clegg

 

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3 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

Maybe. This time it feels different. If Brexit doesn’t shake it up - I’m not sure what will! 

let's hope so...if it doesn't there is no chance.......

It took me a while to figure out why Max Keiser was so anti Brexit as he's so anti establishment....but it finally  dawned on me he hates TPTB establishment in this country so much he figures we are just leaving one elite for the old guard.....elite who will go back to their old ways....of *********** over the proles....i guess he figures the EU are more humanitarian than our own elite......i'm not sure about that (greece etc) southern Europe etc..... but if Brexit does happen and we don;t evolve our system of govt we are probably ********d....Eu will probably go down its own u bend within 10 years and we'll just be one nail in that...

I think if brexit does happen...Farage's prediction will come true we won;t be the last to leave.....

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5 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

Maybe. This time it feels different. If Brexit doesn’t shake it up - I’m not sure what will! 

I can see the point that once things are settled and we're on the way out we'll all go back to sleep.

However, I believe we'll get a recession and probably a financial crash in the next year or two - the World economy is already slowing quite markedly - and under those circumstances the pot is likely to keep boiling and this will bring to the surface issues that are buried.

Furthermore, any recession/ crash is going to put great pressure on the EU and it may be forced to change direction under those circumstances. It may have to ditch the growth and stability pact - as the Italians are already straining to do - and this will put strong pressure on the ECB because the corollary of this is an almost certain escalation in member states funding rates which will compound the problems further.

Brexit may just be the end of the beginning.

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1 hour ago, Dorkins said:

I doubt Brexit will give UK politics a massive shakeup. Once the end state is reached the Brexit Party/UKIP/ERG will shrivel away and it will be back to LibLabCon as usual.

Exactly - Same game - different people.

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