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1 minute ago, thecrashingisles said:

Which comes back to my original question.  Why do you think the government isn't keen on Brexit, despite their loss of credibility over not delivering it?

Its the hardline Brexiteers that are preventing it from being delivered..

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8 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said:

Which comes back to my original question.  Why do you think the government isn't keen on Brexit, despite their loss of credibility over not delivering it?

 Because they are remainers!

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8 minutes ago, Dave Beans said:

Its the hardline Brexiteers that are preventing it from being delivered..

Maybe that’s because the hardline Brexiteers want a hardline brexit.

I think we’re on the cusp of a swing  to no deal tbh.

The Euro election will be brutal.

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44 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said:

Hardly a surprise. If you look at Ashcroft's polling data among successful degree educated people about 75% voted Remain a figure that is probably slightly higher now given the general swing towards Remain since the poll. 

Apparently even McDonnal and Corbyn are "remainers at heart"

I wasn't aware of a differentiation between 'successful' & otherwise, degree educated people in Ashcroft's poll - do you have a link, please?

From this link https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/02/how-the-uk-voted-on-brexit-and-why-a-refresher/ it's only 57% for degree educated people. Is there a separation somewhere that shows the proportion for 'successful degree educated people' rises so much, to your 75%?

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A majority (57%) of those with a university degree voted to remain, as did 64% of those with a higher degree and more than four in five (81%) of those still in full time education. Among those whose formal education ended at secondary school or earlier, a large majority voted to leave.

 

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2 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

Maybe that’s because the hardline Brexiteers want a hardline brexit.

I think we’re on the cusp of a swing  to no deal tbh.

The Euro election will be brutal.

...and if, after a no deal, we end up with something worse than the WA, then so be it..

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3 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said:

Why do you think educated people are less likely to believe in Brexit?  Do you think education makes people less patriotic? 

So if you don’t have a degree you are not educated!

Careful, your prejudice is creeping out a little there.

Patriotism has nothing to do with education.

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1 minute ago, highYield said:

I wasn't aware of a differentiation between 'successful' & otherwise, degree educated people in Ashcroft's poll - do you have a link, please?

From this link https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/02/how-the-uk-voted-on-brexit-and-why-a-refresher/ it's only 57% for degree educated people. Is there a separation somewhere that shows the proportion for 'successful degree educated people' rises so much, to your 75%?

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted

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2 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

So if you don’t have a degree you are not educated!

Careful, your prejudice is creeping out a little there.

Patriotism has nothing to do with education.

Given that the level of education is strongly correlated with support for Brexit, your final claim must mean you think that Brexit has nothing to do with patriotism (which for once is correct).

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4 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:

So be it.

...and when reality bites, watch the main players in this debacle skulk away, where only a year before they were hailed as heroes..

We go from an amicable Brexit, to 100% severing of all ties, and if its not this, it a betrayal, Brexit..

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1 minute ago, thecrashingisles said:

Given that the level of education is strongly correlated with support for Brexit, your final claim must mean you think that Brexit has nothing to do with patriotism (which for once is correct).

Brexit correlates to age; that’s definately the case; and more young people study degrees these days, which is why there is a weak correlation between degree education and Brexit voting.

But having a degree does not make you in any way shape or form a more worthy citizen.

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Just now, GrizzlyDave said:

Brexit correlates to age; that’s definately the case; and more young people study degrees these days, which is why there is a weak correlation between degree education and Brexit voting.

But having a degree does not make you in any way shape or form a more worthy citizen.

Do you think age makes you more patriotic?

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2 minutes ago, highYield said:

I like the 5% UKIPers who voted remain!

Degree 68% & no differentiation between successful & otherwise.

CoVIs said to look at Ashcroft's polling data.

And the 32% of Lib Dem’s!

Does Vince speak for them?

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2 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said:

You're the one who says Brexit is patriotic.

 

No I mean ‘more patriotic’

Surely you are either patriotic or not patriotic. How can you be more patriotic? By wearing Union Jack Pants?

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