scottbeard Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, rollover said: 970,150 signatures Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate Waiting for 1 day for a debate date I'm not sure what this petition is really hoping to achieve? We all know that large numbers of people would prefer to remain in the EU, indeed 16 million of them cast a vote to do so in 2016. Equally it seems there has been nothing but debates in parliament about this subject for weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 990,393 signatures That is unexpected! Brexiters are speechless now. Edited March 21, 2019 by rollover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 We shall be not, we shall not be moved..... Unless moving brings more freedom, more choices and benefits than staying... Only those that can can..... Forget the rest they can only do as they are told to do... What if they don't want to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyDave Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, scottbeard said: I'm not sure what this petition is really hoping to achieve? We all know that large numbers of people would prefer to remain in the EU, indeed 16 million of them cast a vote to do so in 2016. Equally it seems there has been nothing but debates in parliament about this subject for weeks? Exactly this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, rollover said: 990,393 signatures That is unexpected! Brexiters are speechless now. Speechless about what? A lot of people who have refused to accept a democratic result from day one are still trying to find ways of overturning it? As a couple of other posters have pointed out this tells us nothing new. If a significant proportion of them were Leavers then it may. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Analysis of the poll already shows that the voting is highly correlated to areas that were strongly remain in the referendum. So effectively what we have is a bunch of people who all voted 'remain' in the referendum, voting in another poll to remain. Totally pointless, proves nothing (other than the contempt which these people have for democracy). It will rightly be ignored as it demonstrates precisely nothing. Edited March 21, 2019 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Over 1,000,000 signatures now and rising very, very fast. So fast the site keeps crashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdwave Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Errol said: Analysis of the poll already shows that the voting is highly correlated to areas that were strongly remain in the referendum. So effectively what we have is a bunch of people who all voted 'remain' in the referendum, voting in another poll to remain. Totally pointless, proves nothing (other than the contempt which these people have for democracy). It will rightly be ignored as it demonstrates precisely nothing. It's far worse..this is how the last big remainer petition was manipulated. There is every reason to believe the same is happening here. It appears the establishment will stop at nothing to thwart Brexit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36640459 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdwave Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Over 1,000,000 signatures now and rising very, very fast. So fast the site keeps crashing. I think this will damage the remainer cause if anything once it's revealed that bots were at play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Errol said: Analysis of the poll already shows that the voting is highly correlated to areas that were strongly remain in the referendum. So effectively what we have is a bunch of people who all voted 'remain' in the referendum, voting in another poll to remain. Totally pointless, proves nothing (other than the contempt which these people have for democracy). It will rightly be ignored as it demonstrates precisely nothing. You just make this stuff up, Errol! The petition only started last night, there was no time so far for analysis of the petition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, thirdwave said: I think this will damage the remainer cause if anything once it's revealed that bots were at play Why should it? That makes the assumption that any form of democracy has anything to do with it. Anything is justified in their eyes if it gets the result they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, thirdwave said: I think this will damage the remainer cause if anything once it's revealed that bots were at play Brexiters bots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Yep. The Remainer poll has been totally hacked, with people signing places like 'non-country ‘Western Sahara’, and Vatican City' - https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/foreign-actors-hijack-article-50-petition-fake-signatures/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Edited March 21, 2019 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revoke-article-50-petition-300000-people-demand-uk-remains-in-eu-after-theresa-may-begs-for-brexit-a4097161.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, rollover said: The petition only started last night, there was no time so far for analysis of the petition. The data is available live to draw such maps. A quick Google found http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/ which is currently defaulting to the current signatories of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Errol said: Yep. The Remainer poll has been totally hacked, with people signing places like 'non-country ‘Western Sahara’, and Vatican City' - https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/foreign-actors-hijack-article-50-petition-fake-signatures/amp/?__twitter_impression=true If true, more evidence of how inefficient our government is. And we're supposed to trust them with our personal data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, rollover said: I have been telling from the beginning that Brexit is undeliverable. And I also think that revoking A50 is the default position. I don't think its undeliverable in principle. I just think if its framed as a howl of nationalist revenge against our most important future trading partner, by a load of spivs shills and tossers pandered to by an amoral authoritarian robot PM... its going nowhere good, very fast. Revoke and reset might at least give a chance to restore Brexits credibility. Get DB to set out an agenda, lock GD in a room with a collection of Call of Duty for the duration and bobs your uncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdwave Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, rollover said: Brexiters bots? To what purpose? I can understand that passions are running high on both sides but such PR stunts by remainers are self defeating and will only tarnish your cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmin Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, hurlerontheditch said: riots with mobility scooters and yellow vests Riots where you have to pay Nigel Farage £50, but he gives you breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdwave Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riedquat said: The data is available live to draw such maps. A quick Google found http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/ which is currently defaulting to the current signatories of this one. At this rate, 10% of all men, women and children in Greater London must have signed this petition. Time to call off the bots I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, rollover said: You just make this stuff up, Errol! The petition only started last night, there was no time so far for analysis of the petition. The analysis is on the Guardian site. As people vote their location (postcode) is recorded, making analysis easy: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/21/petitions-site-crashes-after-thousands-back-call-to-revoke-article-50 Tom Forth, the head of data at the Open Data Institute Leeds, said the distribution of signatures across the UK was uneven. The signatures were “extremely concentrated in just a few places, and a very strong correlation with places that voted remain,” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, rollover said: You just make this stuff up, Errol! The petition only started last night, there was no time so far for analysis of the petition. It actually started a month ago, on 20th February. (You can check that by looking at the end date on the petition website of 20 August, which is 6 months after 20 February). However, obviously there have been a lot of votes in the last 48 hours that presumably can't/haven't been analysed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, scottbeard said: However, obviously there have been a lot of votes in the last 48 hours that presumably can't/haven't been analysed. Of course they can be analysed. The computer software has the postcode or other location data. It can analyse the data in seconds probably, given a powerful enough computer. Do you think they are doing it by hand on a pocket calculator or something? Edited March 21, 2019 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Errol said: Yep. The Remainer poll has been totally hacked, with people signing places like 'non-country ‘Western Sahara’, and Vatican City' - https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/foreign-actors-hijack-article-50-petition-fake-signatures/amp/?__twitter_impression=true ??? Errol, you are proper troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, rollover said: ??? Errol, you are proper troll. A proper troll posting articles from a 'Remain' supporting newspaper The Guardian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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