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As someone who has been told today "oh no, we don't allow tenants to go onto periodic tenancies" - signed!!

Eh? So they serve notice at the end of the ast?

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Signed.

After signing I was asked to make a donation which would be used to publicise the petition. Can anyone tell me how this works? How does a cash contribution translate into wider awareness?

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My guess is online advertising?

If fees go, I'd hope that rents will drop. Something needs to be quite a bit cheaper at the moment when you expect to hand over £500 just to move.

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They want their "admin fee" for setting up a new fixed-term agreement. The landlords are happy for me to go periodic, and I want it for the flexibility. I've put in a complaint.

Anyway, news of a bill progressing (slowly) through the Lords: https://www.change.org/p/brandon-lewis-make-renting-fair-in-england/u/16941377

But how can they force you to sign a new ast?

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Signed. I think it's a good idea, even if they do try to offset by raising rents (innit) it's better that the charges go onto the headline rent number.

At my last tenancy (no renewal) I paid:

£700 pre tenancy fee (inventory, contract, ****** knows what else)

£36 references

£178 check out

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Well they can't force me to sign anything. But if I don't they can chuck me out at the end of the AST and I want to stay for the moment.

How, if the landlord doesn't want you to go?

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Well they can't force me to sign anything. But if I don't they can chuck me out at the end of the AST and I want to stay for the moment.

Just explain to the landlord that its of no benefit to him and he is going to potentially end up with a few months void... each month is 8.33% of his rental income for the year down the drain... all to earn the LA a few more pennies?

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Signed.

The lack of adequate controls on the lucrative rentier economy in the UK has lead to disfunctional imbalances in society and sub-optimal sustainable growth.

Serious questions need to be asked as to why one of the largest economies in Europe lags so badly behind other European countries (e.g. Germany) on efficient housing solutions.

The inevitable outcome for future generations will be mass resentment of the current politicians who have failed to get a grip on the issue. Change is needed to make a fairer playing field through efficient controls and taxation. It's not rocket science. It's common sense.

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Signed (and I don't often sign petitions).

I gave a three-part reason. There's a lot of sharp practice coming from some agents, who may be acting in neither landlords' nor tenants' interests. Landlords appoint agents and need a complete and fair view of their agent's charges, which they don't get under the present system. Tenants have no say over agents, and shouldn't have to pay arbitrary fees to someone who is unaccountable to them.

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No brainer signing this.

Rent should reflect the costs of the landlord including advertising and managing the property. Landlords have the power to take their business to any agent they please. All tenants can do is hope that the agent with the lowest fees (but not by much) has something suitable to rent. Ergo, it's fairer to charge all fees to the landlord.

Did tenant fees increase so that agents could lower landlord fees to compete with each other for more business? If so, they clearly don't care about renters.

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Agency fees are just another name for rent - A small additional rent on top of the landlords rent.

So why the sudden outcry?

I find it sad that people can see the clear injustice of an 'agency fee' paid in return for no service but will meekly accept the landlord's rent even though it is the exact same thing.

There's no difference whatsoever in the moral status, economic impact, or value for money.

It's the landlord that pays anyway.

Tenants can and do pay a few hundred pounds a year in additional 'agency fee' rent. Landlords know that.

So what do you think they will do once agency fees are banned and that extra rent is up for grabs?

Make renting far?! For ******s sake. That's like asking big brother to fit air con in room 101.

Edited by BuyToLeech

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I will never (never say never...) dign a petition calling for price caps. Mkt would sort it out IF allowed to.

To solve problem no central planning. #endHTB #bringbackcapitalism

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I will never (never say never...) dign a petition calling for price caps. Mkt would sort it out IF allowed to.

What's preventing the market from sorting it out now? Why don't you see letting agent adverts in bus stops saying "Fees for tenants only £50 per property, visit our website today!"

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I will never (never say never...) dign a petition calling for price caps. Mkt would sort it out IF allowed to.

To solve problem no central planning. #endHTB #bringbackcapitalism

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What's preventing the market from sorting it out now? Why don't you see letting agent adverts in bus stops saying "Fees for tenants only £50 per property, visit our website today!"

Er, ?

I've seen exactly those ads.

Also, type "no tenant fees rightmove" into your fave search engine and you'll see it's not uncommon on the UK's biggest rental portal.

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I've seen exactly those ads.

Also, type "no tenant fees rightmove" into your fave search engine and you'll see it's not uncommon on the UK's biggest rental portal.

What's your definition of "not uncommon"? The fact that Google can find a few properties without tenant fees out of the several hundred thousand properties for rent on Rightmove is not that impressive. The last two times I've moved into a new private rental I've filtered literally thousands of properties and not once did I see a property that met what we were looking for (size of property, geographical area, price) that was advertised without fees.

Edited by Dorkins

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As someone who has been told today "oh no, we don't allow tenants to go onto periodic tenancies" - signed!!

This was tried on me. I said 'no new contract' and I am still here. They will try anything to get some extra fees.

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