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The photos look like you can use your space for whatever you want. You can have a living space, or a meeting room, how about an office? You don't get that sort of structure in the UK. It may happen on different levels of a high rise I guess.

I imagine they are the shared areas ?

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Ive been keeping my eye on the market in Spain for a while, that isn't cheap it's expensive. Plus, it looks like the former office of a bankrupt tech company.

You could probably spend another 20k EUR and get a small villa on the Med with a private pool

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Meanwhile in Spain?

You could find plenty of such examples meanwhile in many parts of the world. Including Blighty. Prices starting at £0 in Pitcairn or Siberia; £1 in Stoke or Liverpool. Or five-figure sums in the ballpark you quoted on Rightmove or Zoopla.

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So I was looking for cheap cheap homes in Valencia with a garage, and found this

http://www.idealista.com/en/inmueble/31783769/

there are many more like it listed in idealista, its a repossessed block (not just one flat the entire block)

78000 eur for a 3 bedder with garage :D

tempting

That looks not very nice.......there are hundreds and hundreds of FREEHOLD historic thus more likely to be safe homes with all the planning permissions in established areas for less than 50k eur....no services charges to pay.....take your pick. ;)

http://www.idealista.com/en/

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Any info on the maintenance fee for the upkeep and those communal areas?

I have a holiday home maintenance costs are the largest cost over there I pay 440 euros a year, mind you its only around 1100 euros(£900) in total for everything over the year Electricity Water Insurance Suma etc which is less than just my UK rates. The maintenance cost is good value that takes care of Pool maintance external work re painting locks cleaning lighting grass cutting etc

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Yes, maybe the best British young up and coming business talent could open a bar!

I think you may be wearing your rose tinted spectacles in the sunshine when you wrote this.

Spain & Portugal have millions of well educated youngsters, out of work, some ambitious - guess where most of them want to come? Rainy UK.

There would be barriers to trading in Spain which you might have overlooked - first the language, you need a very good level of Castellano and maybe Catalan & Basque would be useful.

Property in business centres Madrid, Barcelona & Bilbao are not cheap.

You will encounter bureaucracy not imagined in the UK, compounded even more if you don't know the locals, procedures will differ at each Town Hall.

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I am looking at Spain with a great deal of interest at the moment. After saving for over 10 years to buy a house in the SE of England, I have pretty much thrown the towel in at the thought of buying in the UK. I have managed to save up quite a chunk of cash and I have a modest final salary pension that I am thinking of cashing in at 57 (am 42 now).

Looking at the prices in Spain, I wonder how long houses will remain this low? I am thinking of possibly buying a place to use as a holiday home until I can retire out there.

The other option of spending my pension and savings on UK rent is not too appealing funnily enough!

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Yes, maybe the best British young up and coming business talent could open a bar!

I think you may be wearing your rose tinted spectacles in the sunshine when you wrote this.

Spain & Portugal have millions of well educated youngsters, out of work, some ambitious - guess where most of them want to come? Rainy UK.

There would be barriers to trading in Spain which you might have overlooked - first the language, you need a very good level of Castellano and maybe Catalan & Basque would be useful.

Property in business centres Madrid, Barcelona & Bilbao are not cheap.

You will encounter bureaucracy not imagined in the UK, compounded even more if you don't know the locals, procedures will differ at each Town Hall.

No, you don't need all that much. You are right about bureaucracy.

I got into an internet discussion a few years ago that was on the subject of enticing the best British young up and coming business talent, well any talent as it goes, to relocate to Spain and set up there. The Spanish would have so much to offer the often priced out un cherished in the UK. All business needs these days is good premises, decent broadband and communication and away you go, and in 2016 Spain really is just a stones throw away from the UK.

With the right encouragement and vision by the Spanish they could take the UK's best and leave the dregs that now over populate our shores to drown in debt. Spain already has the infrastructure, it has housing that millionaires would live in the UK going for peanuts, sun, culture and so much more.

The UK treats it's young intelligent best as parasitic food for the boomers and the lazy, and there is a few more countries that could do the same thing. In recent years I have heard off so many people how welcoming and wonderful Portugal is these days, but sadly just corrupt at the top.

Grumpysod, where did you hear that? From the threads in burbuja.info, all I hear is corruption, nepotism and cronyism.

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No, you don't need all that much. You are right about bureaucracy.

You mean you don't need very good Spanish? I suppose not if you are running a bar on the Costa.

But a negocio in Madrid? I think so, yes, or you may need to employ someone who is.

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Not Spain specifically but a good example of a Southern European country offering value for money re air fares, car hire and property as well as safe, relaxing, warm, open, spacious and tranquil place to spend a holiday....more people are choosing safer places, away from the crowds, independent easy travel, excellent telecommunications, natural beauty, great fauna and flora, friendly and accommodating people........there will always be work catering and providing services to people that wish and want to be in certain safe, spiritual, stress free and calming places.... ;)

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Not Spain specifically but a good example of a Southern European country offering value for money re air fares, car hire and property as well as safe, relaxing, warm, open, spacious and tranquil place to spend a holiday....more people are choosing safer places, away from the crowds, independent easy travel, excellent telecommunications, natural beauty, great fauna and flora, friendly and accommodating people........there will always be work catering and providing services to people that wish and want to be in certain safe, spiritual, stress free and calming places.... ;)

Yes,it's just that you will have to get in line behind the South Americans & Moroccans who speak the language much better than you, and will be happy to do it for 5 euros an hour (cash). If it's agricultural work Africans are freely available for recruitment.

The better jobs will be filled by local Spanish, usually on recommendation from a family member.

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Yes,it's just that you will have to get in line behind the South Americans & Moroccans who speak the language much better than you, and will be happy to do it for 5 euros an hour (cash). If it's agricultural work Africans are freely available for recruitment.

The better jobs will be filled by local Spanish, usually on recommendation from a family member.

......no, alternative holiday destinations, offering alternative activities such as star gazing, walking, music, food, bird watching, hiking, swimming, meditating, yoga, thinking rather than doing.....British offering to other British, Spanish, Other Europeans, Scandinavians, Americans, Canadians etc etc....Moroccans or any others that wish to partake.....

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I do wonder just how safe Spain is, especially regarding property crime, when every property I see on the tele has bars on all the windows, regardless of their location, urban and rural, even 2nd and 3rd floor apartments have them!

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I do wonder just how safe Spain is, especially regarding property crime, when every property I see on the tele has bars on all the windows, regardless of their location, urban and rural, even 2nd and 3rd floor apartments have them!

I have a 2nd floor app never had any bother neither has anyone in our complex 56 of apartments, bars are fitted as standard to ground floor dwellings, my insurance for the year is 125 euros for both contents and building and has been that for the last 10 years give or take a couple of euros, that is the best guide I can give you to risk.

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......no, alternative holiday destinations, offering alternative activities such as star gazing, walking, music, food, bird watching, hiking, swimming, meditating, yoga, thinking rather than doing.....British offering to other British, Spanish, Other Europeans, Scandinavians, Americans, Canadians etc etc....Moroccans or any others that wish to partake.....

You'd be wanting to check the local planning, licensing and taxation arrangements for holiday accommodation.

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You'd be wanting to check the local planning, licensing and taxation arrangements for holiday accommodation.

Anyone who wants to start a business offering holiday accommodation and experiences will have to abide with the rules and regulations of the relevant area.....goes without saying.....Spain encourages this type of tourist business. ;)

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I do wonder just how safe Spain is, especially regarding property crime, when every property I see on the tele has bars on all the windows, regardless of their location, urban and rural, even 2nd and 3rd floor apartments have them!

Those are so you can leave your window/ shutters open at night during the opressively hot summers and still have a bit of security.

A car jack is the favoured method of entrance for some thieves, if the steel is not high grade and can be bent.

I would have thought that this type of construction would not be allowed in the UK - not a good idea if you want to get away from a fire quickly.

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