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Bbc Article Confirms Anedoctal Stats For Ee Migrants

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How immigration changed Boston, Lincolnshire

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36258541

Worth posting, for posterity sake.

In short, wages have fallen and cost of housing has risen.

And the article does not go into much the tax credits this is all costing us.

For fck sake - Poland has loads of cheap agricultural land and cheap workforce.

What sort of fcked system imports people from a low cost to work, at great subsidy, in the high cost country?

The jobs and work should have been exported to fcking Poland (or Romania, or Bulgaria).

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How immigration changed Boston, Lincolnshire

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36258541

Worth posting, for posterity sake.

In short, wages have fallen and cost of housing has risen.

And the article does not go into much the tax credits this is all costing us.

For fck sake - Poland has loads of cheap agricultural land and cheap workforce.

What sort of fcked system imports people from a low cost to work, at great subsidy, in the high cost country?

The jobs and work should have been exported to fcking Poland (or Romania, or Bulgaria).

Your words sums up all that is wrong. A town is flooded with cheap labour that's at a cost to the tax payer (tax credits etc), high housing costs, competition for jobs keeps wages low. Nothing good here. Same in Northampton.

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Your words sums up all that is wrong. A town is flooded with cheap labour that's at a cost to the tax payer (tax credits etc), high housing costs, competition for jobs keeps wages low. Nothing good here. Same in Northampton.

We subsidise farmers too.

And prevent cheaper produces -Africa, Middle East, from exporting.

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Growth!!

Good for the economy, after all you cant make growth by investment even with rates at zero, so open the doors, free movement of people, its a net benefit (or so we are spoon fed).

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We are all consumers.....more consumers = more growth......money without doing very much at all....until they all want homes and other transport, health and education services.......why have TPTB planned for this eventuality?.....the corporates that thrive on cheap labour and profits won't do it......investment has to come from above. ;)

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I am no farming expert, but leaving your food security to the whims of the market is a little dangerous!

We subsidise farmers too.

And prevent cheaper produces -Africa, Middle East, from exporting.

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I am no farming expert, but leaving your food security to the whims of the market is a little dangerous!

The UK is a long way from eating grass a la N Korea.

Most of the sub goes on stuff people rarely East, or eat too much I.e meat.

Whàts more important these days? Mutton or software??

I don't hear much clamouring for Software subs, which is really important to the future growth and security.

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At school we were taught about the repeal of the Corn Laws the rich had enacted giving ordinary people access to cheap food. Liberalisation of trade and free markets were trumpeted to all us schoolchildren as a 'good thing'.

What happened? I don't understand the difference between the hated Corn Laws pouring money into the coffers of rich landowners and the EU AND subsidised Labour to press down on wages.

and that is why history will repeat

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Utterly true! Yet, I recall a country which had a massive food surplus! To the point it was known as a "bread basket" of a whole region.....few (ok a lot of) misguided policies and food production crashed and it is now simply "basket case". Name that country......Zimbabwe! :lol:

OK, so it a far fetched comparison, but it doesn't take much to destroy an industry.

The UK is a long way from eating grass a la N Korea.

Most of the sub goes on stuff people rarely East, or eat too much I.e meat.

Whàts more important these days? Mutton or software??

I don't hear much clamouring for Software subs, which is really important to the future growth and security.

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So apart from lowering their wages and increasing their housing costs immigration is a good deal for the less affluent locals? And the PTB wonder why they are losing support among the plebs.

Edited by wonderpup

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Utterly true! Yet, I recall a country which had a massive food surplus! To the point it was known as a "bread basket" of a whole region.....few (ok a lot of) misguided policies and food production crashed and it is now simply "basket case". Name that country......Zimbabwe! :lol:

OK, so it a far fetched comparison, but it doesn't take much to destroy an industry.

Politicians trying run a market does not work. Wow wehod have thought that.

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It's scary how typical this article is for the BBC. It could have been generated by software.....just give it the basic instructions of :-

1) remove words like "mass" and "uncontrolled" from its vocabulary

2) lay the foundation that immigration (plain vanilla immigration) is OK and beneficial

3) conflate this principle with a country suffering from uncontrolled, mass immigration

4) throw in a few minor issues of immigration to show "balance"

5) wrap up the article with a positive summary supporting immigration - and remember, we're looking to conflate immigration and uncontrolled, mass immigration as the same thing. Numbers don't matter, principles do.

Edited by canbuywontbuy

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