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Kurt Barlow

Anyone Here A Chemical Engineer / Work In Chemical Manufacturing In The Uk

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Next year there is a good chance my wife and I will move to the UK. A combination of reasons including dire job market here, the death of manufacturing in Australia, and my wifes parents are moving back to Iran so the UK is better from a family perspective.

My wife is a Chemical Engineer (Iranian UG Degree and Masters from Aussie Uni). 10 years experience in Oz, 4 of which with a household name.By early 2017 she should have Chartered IchemE status.

The potential move is somewhat daunting for her as she would be entering a new job market.

Any views, advice gratefully received.

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I work in finished dosage form pharmaceutical R&D, plus we have some small-medium scale manufacturing. We do occasionally get chemical engineers working with us - mostly in process development type roles. You also get quite a few specialized people in powder handling, modelling, continuous manufacturing etc. It's a potential option but unless she has got some experience in pharmaceuticals it might be hard to get into - plus the UK pharma R&D and manufacturing base has taken a reasonable beating over the last 5-10 years. I guess there is similar kind of roles in fast moving consumer goods eg. P&G etc.

I don't know much about traditional chemical manufacturing here to be honest - and depending where you live there might not be much nearby.

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I work in finished dosage form pharmaceutical R&D, plus we have some small-medium scale manufacturing. We do occasionally get chemical engineers working with us - mostly in process development type roles. You also get quite a few specialized people in powder handling, modelling, continuous manufacturing etc. It's a potential option but unless she has got some experience in pharmaceuticals it might be hard to get into - plus the UK pharma R&D and manufacturing base has taken a reasonable beating over the last 5-10 years. I guess there is similar kind of roles in fast moving consumer goods eg. P&G etc.

I don't know much about traditional chemical manufacturing here to be honest - and depending where you live there might not be much nearby.

Thanks

I have suggested to her that a move into a managerial role might be a better move in the long run.

If we return to the UK we can pretty much move to where the work is.

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I can't speak to this field in particular, but overseas qualifications/experience don't necessarily go down well in the UK. My missus was an accounting high flyer in her home country, but even nationally well-known names and qualifications are greeted with eh? over here. They don't even bother checking overseas references because of a perceived hassle factor I guess.

My missus did eventually get suitable work though.

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Crikey, I'm not in the "head stuff" business! :huh:

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I can't speak to this field in particular, but overseas qualifications/experience don't necessarily go down well in the UK. My missus was an accounting high flyer in her home country, but even nationally well-known names and qualifications are greeted with eh? over here. They don't even bother checking overseas references because of a perceived hassle factor I guess.

My missus did eventually get suitable work though.

That's probably because your burd was a high flying accountant in Mogadishu.

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I can't speak to this field in particular, but overseas qualifications/experience don't necessarily go down well in the UK. My missus was an accounting high flyer in her home country, but even nationally well-known names and qualifications are greeted with eh? over here. They don't even bother checking overseas references because of a perceived hassle factor I guess.

My missus did eventually get suitable work though.

Somewhat different story, I should think. Accounting (like, say, law or religion) is following a set of processes and recipes set down by legislators, and differ from country to country. Whereas engineering applies principles originating in nature, so while working practices might vary, the fundamentals imply fully transferable skills.

In my own field (another engineering discipline), we certainly welcome foreigners, and foreigners welcome us.

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Somewhat different story, I should think. Accounting (like, say, law or religion) is following a set of processes and recipes set down by legislators, and differ from country to country. Whereas engineering applies principles originating in nature, so while working practices might vary, the fundamentals imply fully transferable skills.

In my own field (another engineering discipline), we certainly welcome foreigners, and foreigners welcome us.

Yes. Whilst bookkeeping / practical accounting is universal there are different regulations and regimes by country and industry.

These are not of course insuperable (unless you're the NHS who seem to think that their financial systems are unique, which they are but not in a good way) but because of the differences when you change sector, which I have more than once, you take a step down in order to prove yourself by gaining the sector specialist knowledge.

Changing country would necessitate a further step down because you're not doing UKGAAP so you have even more to learn.

You certainly can move between country and sector but you will get a demotion and a pay cut and have to prove yourself and work your way back up each time.

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What does she have experience of exactly, some things in Chem. Eng. are more niche than others.

If she has process engineering experience and chartered status she should find something. My advice would be to just follow the usual methods: make contact with some appropriate recruiters on linkedin, apply for some jobs and get her CV out into the wild.

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What does she have experience of exactly, some things in Chem. Eng. are more niche than others.

If she has process engineering experience and chartered status she should find something. My advice would be to just follow the usual methods: make contact with some appropriate recruiters on linkedin, apply for some jobs and get her CV out into the wild.

Last 4 years -Process Engineer for bulk production of chemicals used in the water industry, mining and oil and gas - Australia

1 year Process Engineer on Controls and automation water industry bulk chemicals - Australia

2 years work and her Research Masters was algal oils / marine products from algae. - Australia

18 Months as Assistant Lecturer at Australian University

Mixture of project work in Iran including work for Nissan, Oil and Gas operations, chemical manufacturers

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You wife sounds cleverer than you! Get a motorcycle and a tent/sleeping bag.

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Last 4 years -Process Engineer for bulk production of chemicals used in the water industry, mining and oil and gas - Australia

1 year Process Engineer on Controls and automation water industry bulk chemicals - Australia

2 years work and her Research Masters was algal oils / marine products from algae. - Australia

18 Months as Assistant Lecturer at Australian University

Mixture of project work in Iran including work for Nissan, Oil and Gas operations, chemical manufacturers

She'll have no problem. At the very worst she'll end up contracting.

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She/'ll have no problem. At the very worst she'll end up contracting.

What? getting smaller and smaller, until you have to keep her in a matchbox? :blink:

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What? getting smaller and smaller, until you have to keep her in a matchbox? :blink:

I think what frozen_out meant was being self-employed rather than being on staff. In engineering this is commonly referred to as contracting.

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I did Chem Eng at Imperial, the one thing it taught me was that I really didn't want to be a Chemical Engineer. Very good training though. Chemical Engineers tend to be very pragmatic (if the answer is right to within 10 tonnes it's OK), computer literate (the maths is damn hard) and organised (if you aren't organised, stuff blows up). Good skills for pretty much any decent job out there.

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I nearly went to Imperial College, but I turned them down and went to Spunkbridge instead. I thought the adverts in phone boxes were too filthy. :blink:

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I nearly went to Imperial College, but I turned them down and went to Spunkbridge instead. I thought the adverts in phone boxes were too filthy. :blink:

You never regret missing out on being trained to run the Empire?

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You never regret missing out on being trained to run the Empire?

No I didn't want to go to London. I was pee-d off with the whole place!

As for the Empire, The Piniverse is coming. Wear clean underpants. :huh:

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Next year there is a good chance my wife and I will move to the UK. A combination of reasons including dire job market here, the death of manufacturing in Australia,

And you seriously believe that there's is more manufacturing left in the UK? :rolleyes:

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And you seriously believe that there's is more manufacturing left in the UK? :rolleyes:

Can't find up-to-date figures at a glance. UK vs Oz from 2008 shows UK manufacturing at just under three times more than Oz, which is broadly compatible with our respective populations. More interestingly, the most recent figures I found showed UK in 2013 had climbed higher up the international rankings since 2008 and scraped back in to the world's top ten!

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