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Merkel Allows Criminal Probe Into Satirical Attack On Turkish President

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Merkel has given the go ahead for German prosecutors to continue with their case against a German comic who "insulted" Erdogan.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/216e723c-02fa-11e6-99cb-83242733f755.html#axzz45uK36YMj

What is the point of being in the EU and the European Court of Human Rights if the largest and most influential country in those blocs think that this is acceptable behaviour?

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Merkel has given the go ahead for German prosecutors to continue with their case against a German comic who "insulted" Erdogan.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/216e723c-02fa-11e6-99cb-83242733f755.html#axzz45uK36YMj

What is the point of being in the EU and the European Court of Human Rights if the largest and most influential country in those blocs think that this is acceptable behaviour?

She also said she will repeal the ancient law under which the prosecution was sought.

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Ha ha, Germans with humour? :huh:

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She also said she will repeal the ancient law under which the prosecution was sought.

That's true, but why did she allow the prosecution to go ahead at all given that it's absolutely her right to refuse it?

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She also said she will repeal the ancient law under which the prosecution was sought.

How much do you want to bet that will be put on the back burner and forgotten about? Summer is coming, and so are German elections. Merkel needs her new Turkish friends to provide her with cover.

If she believed the law to be wrong, then she wouldn't have allowed the prosecution. She would have been entirely within the law to stop it.

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We need to keep Turkey on side with promises of EU membership and pandering to the likes of Erdogan in order to use them as the buffer state between us and a tsunami of refugees/economic migrants. Otherwise, they'll simply allow every Tom, Dick and Ali access to Greece. Germany has f@cked Greece over enough in the past 100 years.

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That's true, but why did she allow the prosecution to go ahead at all given that it's absolutely her right to refuse it?

It's a lesson to Turkey in that this is how we (in the EU) do things. We follow the law and then hand it over to the people who evaluate the law and then onto the people who enforce the law.

Not like in Turkey. You can't shout about the virtues of a law abiding society while riding roughshod over the law when ever it's not convenient.

Would you take a lesson about not smacking your children from somebody who smacked their children? No.

It's the same with the islamic protests over here, how can you criticize/ban them in the EU while telling the muslims to rise-up in protest in their own countries?

But yes, it still sucks.

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I think we need to remember how the British state flung kids in gaol for silly drunken remarks on Facebook during and just after the 2011 riots.

I thought it was for looting and posting pics of themselves next to thier loot.

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That's true, but why did she allow the prosecution to go ahead at all given that it's absolutely her right to refuse it?

Is it?

Our powers-that-be would take a dim view of political interference if Mr Cameron tried to tell our prosecutors whether to prosecute a particular individual who appears to have committed an offence. We've jailed people for less than that in recent times (e.g. being an **** on twitter), with the blessing of politicians on both sides.

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Is it?

It seems the chancelor(Merkel) has some right/obligation relating specifically to this charge of insulting foreign dignatories (or whatever) rather than a general right.

Here's the song. Seems fairly tame. Subtitles available.

edit: correction, that song, in a different satire show, seems to have caused a diplomatic incident last week, with Turkey calling in the German ambassador, and the state broadcaste removing the video from its online archive, resulting in Böhmermann producing his more offensive poem. I'll see if I can find an English version

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It seems the chancelor(Merkel) has some right/obligation relating specifically to this charge of insulting foreign dignatories (or whatever) rather than a general right.

OK, yes, heard it reported thus ont'wireless now too. Bizarre law putting her explicitly on the hook!

It's certainly still hypocritical for Brits to criticise her over this without also laying into our own powers-that-be over serious attacks on free speech.

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Turkey will have a population of 100 million in the near future. More votes than any other single nation should they get in the EU. I guess thats one reason we should be thankful democracy within the EU is just a facade...

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