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Why Has The Press Now Got It In For Cameron?

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Is it fair to assume this is Brexit related? And trying to turn the C2 voter base against the pro-EU Tory leadership?

The stories so far about Cameron amount to £300k inheritance, £30k in trust and £200k from his mother which are hardly spectacular amounts.

I know it will seem a lot to many people who can't bare the the thought of others having greater wealth than themselves, but given house prices these days, these are not huge amounts. One of the papers even thought it should say David Cameron has learnt £1m in salary as PM. Again this is hardly that spectacular.

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Is it fair to assume this is Brexit related? And trying to turn the C2 voter base against the pro-EU Tory leadership?

Of course it is! They've even invoked the Royals on this one, inventing stories about the Queen and attacking her grandson. Compared to that, a mere politician is absolutely fair game.

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Is it fair to assume this is Brexit related? And trying to turn the C2 voter base against the pro-EU Tory leadership?

The stories so far about Cameron amount to £300k inheritance, £30k in trust and £200k from his mother which are hardly spectacular amounts.

I know it will seem a lot to many people who can't bare the the thought of others having greater wealth than themselves, but given house prices these days, these are not huge amounts. One of the papers even thought it should say David Cameron has learnt £1m in salary as PM. Again this is hardly that spectacular.

Did it mention the fully expensed house? The private secretaries? The jaunts all over Europe?

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They see him as a dead man walking. He's already indicated he won't stay for another term (always a mistake to go public, I feel) - and the press/public/Tory party always want something new. The thirst and greed for power is not strong within this one, and the circulating vultures sense it.

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Where's Erranta?

Remember Gordon Brown once said, in his dying days as the Prime Minister, we are witnessing the birth pangs of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

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If George Soros and the US have funded the leaks, a broken Europe would favour the US in a power vacuum. Russia doesn't come from a position of strength here. Soros broke the back of the bank of England in 1992, banking over $1bn on shorting the pound - perhaps he's doing it again. Cameron resigns, the pound drops, interest rates go to 17%, we get scared and vote to stay in Europe but with some sort of deal with the US.

Perhaps this is the HPC you've been waiting for - a run on the pound?

The Tragedy of the European Union

The European Union could soon be a thing of the past. Xenophobia is rampant and commonly reflected in elections across the continent. Great Britain may hold a referendum on whether to abandon the union altogether. Spurred by anti-EU sentiments due to the euro crisis, national interests conflict with a shared vision for the future of Europe. Is it too late to preserve the union that generated unprecedented peace for more than half a century?

This is no mere academic question with limited importance for America and the rest of the world. In the past decade, the EU has declined from a unified global power to a fractious confederation of states with staggering unemployment resentfully seeking relief from a reluctant Germany. If the EU collapses and the former member states are transformed again from partners into rivals, the US and the world will confront the serious economic and political consequences that follow.

In a series of revealing interviews conducted by Dr. Gregor Peter Schmitz, George Soros—a man of vast European experience whose personal past informs his present concerns—offers trenchant commentary and concise, prescriptive advice: The euro crisis was not an inevitable consequence of integration, but a result of avoidable mistakes in politics, economics, and finance; and excessive faith in the self-regulating financial markets that Soros calls market fundamentalism inspired flawed institutional structures that call out for reform. Despite the considerable perils of this period, George Soros maintains his faith in the European Union as a model of open society. This book is a testament to his vision for a peaceful and productive Europe.

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"Rule The World" won at Aintree 09/04/2016

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I have a very long dated bet on Osborne becoming the next Prime Minister at 25/1.... current odds are 9/2 but only after Dec 2016.

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My antipathy towards Cameron has nothing to do with jealousy of his wealth, rather disgust at his duplicity.

This.

It has to come out in the wash at some point. Austerity shouldn't just be for the proles.

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This.

It has to come out in the wash at some point. Austerity shouldn't just be for the proles.

I was thinking more about his 2010 suggestions that, if elected, he would sort out Labour's housing bubble, then inflating it more with FLS, HTB etc.

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My antipathy towards Cameron has nothing to do with jealousy of his wealth, rather disgust at his duplicity.

Totally agree Bruce. Although if anything he actually deserves my appreciation, since it was him who finally convinced me to not to put any hope or faith in any politician of any party, which IMO is quite a nice place to be.

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Definitely some agenda going on. I would imagine most newspaper proprietors are heavy users of tax havens, and the editors have in the past been told to steer clear. For some reason now the gloves are off and the proprietors are risking blowback onto their own affairs.

Despite this they're still missing the two main points: much of the money in tax havens is illicitly gained - the problem is money laundering as much as tax avoidance; and the tax avoidance is more to do with hiding assets than income (which is why Cameron *still* hasn't completely revealed all IMO, and where the press smell blood).

Meanwhile, Osborne's very quiet isn't he?

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All he is doing like many others do, perhaps that is why they are so wealthy, is using good financial planning ways of paying as little tax as possible....tax avoidance...masses can be saved on the big one IHT for example.

Maybe money might be better spent sending all households a leaflet on legal ways to save on tax effectively.....all in this together......either that or close the loopholes.

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The papers just want a scalp, same with every minister who gets caught in a sticky situation. It will be internal Tory politics that decides when Cameron goes.

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Definitely some agenda going on. I would imagine most newspaper proprietors are heavy users of tax havens, and the editors have in the past been told to steer clear. For some reason now the gloves are off and the proprietors are risking blowback onto their own affairs.

Despite this they're still missing the two main points: much of the money in tax havens is illicitly gained - the problem is money laundering as much as tax avoidance; and the tax avoidance is more to do with hiding assets than income (which is why Cameron *still* hasn't completely revealed all IMO, and where the press smell blood).

Meanwhile, Osborne's very quiet isn't he?

Maybe it's a bit of balànce? Corbyn has been such an open goal that they feel they have to have a go.

Stupid on the target. Offshore does not equal tax evasion. His stuff is small and legit.

The Guardian, as an example, has done much worse stuff. The non-Corbynistas are very quiet. They probably sense this could blow up in their faces.

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Maybe it's a bit of balànce? Corbyn has been such an open goal that they feel they have to have a go.

Stupid on the target. Offshore does not equal tax evasion. His stuff is small and legit.

The Guardian, as an example, has done much worse stuff. The non-Corbynistas are very quiet. They probably sense this could blow up in their faces.

The whole point of being an issue if it is offshore is that it is offshore from where these shysters are imposing tax rules on the rest of us complete with every threat they deem appropriate.

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Definitely some agenda going on. I would imagine most newspaper proprietors are heavy users of tax havens, and the editors have in the past been told to steer clear. For some reason now the gloves are off and the proprietors are risking blowback onto their own affairs.

Despite this they're still missing the two main points: much of the money in tax havens is illicitly gained - the problem is money laundering as much as tax avoidance; and the tax avoidance is more to do with hiding assets than income (which is why Cameron *still* hasn't completely revealed all IMO, and where the press smell blood).

Meanwhile, Osborne's very quiet isn't he?

That is actually a rather interesting point.

What if they want Cameron out precisely because he's too clean for them? A man who sold up completely to avoid conflict of interest on becoming PM is a man who might really make things harder for other super-rich. They want back to a PM they can rely on to kick the whole matter back into the long grass.

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I was thinking more about his 2010 suggestions that, if elected, he would sort out Labour's housing bubble, then inflating it more with FLS, HTB etc.

Boils down to the same attitude. Using public money to stoke a housing bubble that splits society is not one nation all-in-it-together conservatism.

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Neither Russia nor the USA have any use for a third superpower so no doubt both of them would on balance be pleased to see the back of the EU. A mysterious leak mysteriously happens and the only real result is to damage Cameron just at the exact time of his Remain campaign. (The ludicrously amateurish camouflage attacks on Putin's daughter's piano teacher's girlfriend don't count and nobody has ever heard of that other guy in Iceland.)

EU badly wounded and Russia/USA go back to profitable business as usual with pretend hostilities funding the military-industrial complex etc.

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