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I must admit the resilience of Zombie based entertainment productions baffles me- surely when you've seen one group of poorly dressed actors shuffling around in bad makeup you've seen them all?

But- be that as it may- I wanted to make a totally spurious observation on the curious synchronicity of the rise of 'Zombie Culture' on our Cinema and TV screens with the ongoing 'Zombification' of our economy which is now populated with a growing number of zombie companies that are not really alive but are kept motile by the sheer volume and cheapness of QE enabled credit that allows their erstwhile managements to create the appearance of vitality via share buyback schemes and other such financial gimmickry, despite the fact that sales may be flat or declining and real productive investment virtually nonexistent.

And a similar kind of malaise seems to be overtaking our public institutions and democracy- there is an increasing sense that these things are in a state of slow decay.

If I subscribed to the idea of a 'collective unconscious'- which I don't- I would be tempted to suggest that in some strange way the slow zombification of our economy and social institutions is being reflected in the themes of slow decay endlessly recycled in popular entertainment.

Could it be that our current fascination with all things undead reflects a growing and widespread unease regarding the slow decay of social and financial institutions that once seemed so solid and enduring? Or am I talking total boll*cks? :D

Any thoughts?

Annnnnnnnnd!- the chances of this thread being moved to some remote Siberian outpost of HPC in the next few hours? Very high indeed. (But if it is I will endeavour to resurrect it in some horribly deformed guise so that it lives on-,zombie like- on the main forum. :ph34r: )

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The rise of the vampire beginning with Buffy the Vampire Slayer in 1992 (Anne Rice's Interivew with a vampire was filmed in 1994) was obviously a reflection* of financialisation. The rise of zombies reflects the bust. I'm buying it. Fun thread.

* Edit: no pun intended

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I think that a link between zombie hordes in fiction and the migrant situation has already been made in that home of good sense, taste and decency that is the off-topic forum.

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I absolutely agree that the creators of books and screen plays like to build analogy into the stories and certainly zombification and vampires do fit the narrative structure for certain periods.

I did find this 3 year old article on the subject: http://www.channel4.com/news/zombie-nation-economy-films-popular-culture-horror-tv - basically bankers are vampires and consumers are zombies, ie a more working class example of the undead.

Roughly I'd list the following:

Zombies = Collapse/decay

Vampires =Financialisation/exploitation

Godzilla = Nuclear holocaust

Science Fiction / distopia = Cold War

Superheros = new hope coming out of austerity

Werewolves = War / fear of Victorian Patriachy

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Most of the zombie movies come from the US but are also heavily consumed in the UK and also around the world so they reflect on the condition of both economies as well as large parts of the rest of world's economy.

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Zombies represent the hordes of the great unwashed, which anyone can join, but generally don't want to. :blink:

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After extensive study of The Walking Dead, I reckon the message is that the remaining humans are much scarier and more dangerous than zombies. Any zombie problem can be fixed with a baseball bat, which must be both stress-relieving and a good exercise. If only pre-apocalypse real-life problems were that simple.

Vampires on the other hand are a good estate-agent metaphor, being generally persuasive, seductive and well-dressed.

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After extensive study of The Walking Dead, I reckon the message is that the remaining humans are much scarier and more dangerous than zombies. Any zombie problem can be fixed with a baseball bat, which must be both stress-relieving and a good exercise. If only pre-apocalypse real-life problems were that simple.

Vampires on the other hand are a good estate-agent metaphor, being generally persuasive, seductive and well-dressed.

In a rather old fashioned way, like a 60s DJ. Zombies dress rather more down market, and Werwolves favour biker gear or ourdoor clothes. What does it all mean? :blink:

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Roughly I'd list the following:

Zombies = Collapse/decay

Vampires =Financialisation/exploitation

Godzilla = Nuclear holocaust

Science Fiction / distopia = Cold War

Superheros = new hope coming out of austerity

Werewolves = War / fear of Victorian Patriachy

That explains the abundance of recent superhero type films which I'm also sick of hearing about.

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Most of the zombie movies come from the US but are also heavily consumed in the UK and also around the world so they reflect on the condition of both economies as well as large parts of the rest of world's economy.

BTW shout out for a UK film in the ZomCom genre - "Cockneys versus Zombies" absolutely hilarious.

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BTW shout out for a UK film in the ZomCom genre - "Cockneys versus Zombies" absolutely hilarious.

With you on that one Mickey - fantastic movie.

Fans of the 70s TV show "The Sweeney" - such as myself - should get a particular hard-on for this film due to the many Sweeney references/in-jokes.

Not safe for work trailer...

XYY

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What a fantastic film. and it's based on a true story! :blink:

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With you on that one Mickey - fantastic movie.

Fans of the 70s TV show "The Sweeney" - such as myself - should get a particular hard-on for this film due to the many Sweeney references/in-jokes.

Not safe for work trailer...

XYY

Very good, "Trafalgars"!

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