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Number of people on zero-hours contracts increases 15%

One in 40 UK workers is on a contract that does not guarantee a minimum number of hours, ONS figures show

One million UK workers 'will soon rely on zero-hours contracts'

No wonder the recovery is so great in the UK with zero-hour contracts, the flexible labour narrative is a winner..... I wonder what this is actually doing to the working tax/child credit figures?

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They would find WTC hard to get because you need to meet a certain minimum hours threshold depending on your status.

A zero hr contract wouldn't work for an annual tax credit claim submission.

The real time universal credit computer program is supposed to make this all work week to week with differing hours (if it ever gets off the ground)

Note: CTC is not employment dependant and you will get it weather working or not, just your WTC claim would suffer or as i imagine people just claim all year and wait for the overpayment demand to come in in 12 months time and let it reduce the following years award?

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Zerohour contracts are the product of an uncertain future. I assume most people on this forum have never been employers - but if you have you know that you cannot pay staff money you don't have.

Large corporate have misused these but then their whole ethos is to mis-represent themselves from their brand to their donations to government perks and lavish dinners. Why is anyone surprised?

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Zerohour contracts are the product of an uncertain future. I assume most people on this forum have never been employers - but if you have you know that you cannot pay staff money you don't have.

Large corporate have misused these but then their whole ethos is to mis-represent themselves from their brand to their donations to government perks and lavish dinners. Why is anyone surprised?

.. ...Amazon can deliver and sell on a Sunday ...open new warehouses with Sunday operations with zero hour contracts ....High Street stores should be able to compete and open when they like as in Scotland....English votes for English laws needed now ...and who are those Tories who are trying to ruin the High Street ...not fit for purpose as MPs.............. :rolleyes:

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Zerohour contracts are the product of an uncertain future. I assume most people on this forum have never been employers - but if you have you know that you cannot pay staff money you don't have.

The future has always been uncertain- the difference now is that employers are shifting the risks of that uncertainty onto their employees.

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The future has always been uncertain- the difference now is that employers are shifting the risks of that uncertainty onto their employees.

Much as they used to before the establishment of trade unions.

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New Zealand has voted to ban them.

Cue the sequelling straw men of businesses going bust, unemployment going up etc. Good, obviously these companies were no viable concern to begin with.

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New Zealand has voted to ban them.

Cue the sequelling straw men of businesses going bust, unemployment going up etc. Good, obviously these companies were no viable concern to begin with.

unemployed going up?>..if you are on zero hours, you ARE unemployed in all but name.

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Try getting a mortgage/buying a home on zero hours contract......we need you more than you can ever need us, we use you more than you will ever use us.....the ball is in our court.....take it or leave it.....

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Try getting a mortgage/buying a home on zero hours contract

This is a good point- our system depends on the existence of a reliable strata of debt slaves- zero hours arrangements pose a threat to this system if the number of people on them grows too large.

Perhaps as HPC'ers we should be secretly cheering on the rise of the Zero Hours worker- each one created removes a potential debt zombie from the pool of candidates thus hastening the day when the system runs out of new entrants to the ponzi scheme known as the housing market.

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Surely if Osbourne banned zero hour contracts he could have more potential homeowners? Oh of course I forgot, his friends in big business would make less money for their shareholders. My mistake.

Edited by Assume The Opposite

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This is a good point- our system depends on the existence of a reliable strata of debt slaves- zero hours arrangements pose a threat to this system if the number of people on them grows too large.

Perhaps as HPC'ers we should be secretly cheering on the rise of the Zero Hours worker- each one created removes a potential debt zombie from the pool of candidates thus hastening the day when the system runs out of new entrants to the ponzi scheme known as the housing market.

Watch HMO go bananas.

you can actually see it happening now. There are whole roads of East Europeans living a dozen to a house in places like Park Royal.

Debt slaves replaced by rent slaves. Problem is no one will have adequate room to breed so we'll have to import more slaves ad infinitum.

It won't end well.

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Surely if Osbourne banned zero hour contracts he could have more potential homeowners? Oh of course I forgot, his friends in big business would make less money for their shareholders. My mistake.

Also keeps unemployment numbers down,not much you can do with life in an uncertain, insecure and deadend job with little prospect of advancement.....still better than no job at all.....think of all the people who support the firms that pay wages that will never pay the rent in the area close to where they work...£9 return fare to get to and from work before you start.....not looking pretty.

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Try getting a mortgage/buying a home on zero hours contract......we need you more than you can ever need us, we use you more than you will ever use us.....the ball is in our court.....take it or leave it.....

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These contracts are cancer. Employers are using them as employment rights are too onerous.

We'll be hearing all about the declining birth rate and yet our political classes ignore the erosion of people's future.

We will need ever higher immigration to allow for the destructive effects of this.

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These contracts are cancer. Employers are using them as employment rights are too onerous.

Is it also possible that wages, particularly NMW, are too high?

If labour was cheap, employers could address their requirement for flexibility through peaks and troughs by keeping people on the books as staff - even if they were underloaded. When labour is expensive, the admin costs, hassle and risks of juggling lots of non-committed zero-hours staff suddenly becomes worth it.

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Try getting a mortgage/buying a home on zero hours contract....

Hoho, have you not seen that QuickQuid advert where the waitress has to take out a payday loan because she got flu?

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