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Not stricyly housing related but does affect all of us

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35712772

CPS to prosecute 'trolls' who use fake online profiles

Lawyers will be advised to prosecute "trolls" who use fake online profiles to harass others, under guidelines being proposed in England and Wales.

However, the guidance also sets out less serious situations where prosecutions should be considered under a fourth category: where a false identity is used to post upsetting messages, including false information that could cause anxiety.

I'd call it...supression of free speech.

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So what counts as a fake identity?

SpectrumFX isn't my real name. It's a Japanese guitar from the 1980's. Does that mean that the whole time I've been on here I've been pretending to be a guitar?

That's not me in the picture either!

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So what counts as a fake identity?

SpectrumFX isn't my real name. It's a Japanese guitar from the 1980's. Does that mean that the whole time I've been on here I've been pretending to be a guitar?

That's not me in the picture either!

Yes, you will be arrested :lol:

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Scary. False information like house prices can come down as well as increase? I bet a few people on this site are already marked as anti-economic growth activists...

Probably on a list some where.

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So what counts as a fake identity?

SpectrumFX isn't my real name. It's a Japanese guitar from the 1980's. Does that mean that the whole time I've been on here I've been pretending to be a guitar?

That's not me in the picture either!

Haha good point!

These aren't new problems to the world trolling has been a serious issue in South Korea for a decade and has led to a number of celebrity suicides. They implemented a solution whereby you must enter the equivalent of a NI number to create any kind of online account so you can be personally identified. Creating an account with a fake number is a serious offence and can lead to imprisonment.

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Hello all,

I've seen this type of anit-speech laws slowly crawling towards us from the United States. More specifically from California, the home of the liberal.

What they call it there, is "triggering speech".

The term trigger was first derived from psychologists treating soldiers returning from the Vietnam war. The soldiers, upon hearing a bang, would enter a panic as they recalled being under fire. Some Marxists/socialist idiots, took the terms "triggered" and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), and twisted it in such a way that anyone (almost always a lefty-liberal) could claim to be "triggered" by someone else's speech. At first no one took it seriously, but as time has passed, the relentless campaign by the left, to ban and censor anything or anyone from saying things people (lefties) may not like because they could cause them PTSD (which is categorically bullsh1t) has pushed discussion out of universities and other public spaces. Free speech then escaped to the online world, where people could call bullsh1t behind a pseudonym. But the lefties are hot in pursuit, so that only their world-view can be discussed. Everything they do not like is either, sexist, racialist, clasist, etc. (This description is not 100% correct, its as best as I recall it)

Now, this tripe has come to the UK. It was only a matter of time.

Of course being Britain, the terminology and implementation of this censorship has to be 10 times as subtle because cheesy American rhetoric (privilege theory) is indigestible here and would immediately be regurgitated. I can post some fine examples of what I mean.

Lawyers will be advised to prosecute "trolls" who use fake online profiles to harass others, under guidelines being proposed in England and Wales.

However, the guidance also sets out less serious situations where prosecutions should be considered under a fourth category: where a false identity is used to post upsetting messages, including false information that could cause anxiety.

There it is in red. Anxiety=Triggering.

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That proposed legislation is causing me anxiety. Where do I go for my compensation?

If the UK vote to stay in Europe, I'm moving permanently to France.

If not, I'm moving permanently somewhere else

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So what counts as a fake identity?

SpectrumFX isn't my real name. It's a Japanese guitar from the 1980's. Does that mean that the whole time I've been on here I've been pretending to be a guitar?

That's not me in the picture either!

Well at least I live up to my name! It also means I can never buy now.....lest my username on HPC misrepresent me. I think I can keep the non-buying going.

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So what counts as a fake identity?

SpectrumFX isn't my real name. It's a Japanese guitar from the 1980's. Does that mean that the whole time I've been on here I've been pretending to be a guitar?

That's not me in the picture either!

They said, "You have a blue guitar,You do not play things as they are."The man replied, "Things as they are Are changed upon the blue guitar."And they said then, "But play, you must,A tune beyond us, yet ourselves,A tune upon the blue guitarOf things exactly as they are."

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CPS to prosecute 'trolls' who use fake online profiles

I'm not a troll, I'm a pig.

Are you the Count of somewhere?

I'd call it...supression of free speech.

Free speech is so last-century. The Liar consigned it to history, along with the better side of the post-war "human rights" culture, and (more disappointingly) the current lot have taken up his baton and are running with it.

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We neednt worry, HPC has always been a safe space for the posters.

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This came up on a football forum a while back, complaints from the club against a few five star twots led to moves to make everybody use real names and that these be verified in some way.

My complaint (as it was from many) was that would take much of its charm away. As well as there being people with amusing names there were people with whole humorous personae. One who was pretending to be an elderly (genuine) local sports reporter was just stand out funny, nobody for one moment thought it was the real reporter.

Plus there were several (as there are on here) bits of insider knowledge that people are happy to put out onto a forum under a character name but would be less comfortable saying something about, for example, their employer if it could be readily picked up by a google search of their name.

Take it to verified real names and you end up with Facebook: superficial, pink and fluffy, and boring as hell.

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Hello all,

I've seen this type of anit-speech laws slowly crawling towards us from the United States. More specifically from California, the home of the liberal.

What they call it there, is "triggering speech".

The term trigger was first derived from psychologists treating soldiers returning from the Vietnam war. The soldiers, upon hearing a bang, would enter a panic as they recalled being under fire. Some Marxists/socialist idiots, took the terms "triggered" and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), and twisted it in such a way that anyone (almost always a lefty-liberal) could claim to be "triggered" by someone else's speech. At first no one took it seriously, but as time has passed, the relentless campaign by the left, to ban and censor anything or anyone from saying things people (lefties) may not like because they could cause them PTSD (which is categorically bullsh1t) has pushed discussion out of universities and other public spaces. Free speech then escaped to the online world, where people could call bullsh1t behind a pseudonym. But the lefties are hot in pursuit, so that only their world-view can be discussed. Everything they do not like is either, sexist, racialist, clasist, etc. (This description is not 100% correct, its as best as I recall it)

Now, this tripe has come to the UK. It was only a matter of time.

Of course being Britain, the terminology and implementation of this censorship has to be 10 times as subtle because cheesy American rhetoric (privilege theory) is indigestible here and would immediately be regurgitated. I can post some fine examples of what I mean.

There it is in red. Anxiety=Triggering.

Very interesting but also very sad. It is a trend in not taking personal responsibility for anything but always looking for someone else to blame.

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Haha good point!

These aren't new problems to the world trolling has been a serious issue in South Korea for a decade and has led to a number of celebrity suicides. They implemented a solution whereby you must enter the equivalent of a NI number to create any kind of online account so you can be personally identified. Creating an account with a fake number is a serious offence and can lead to imprisonment.

How the hell did they implement that, logistics don't stack up :blink:

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The internet is full of people who annoy the hell out of me, knowing their real names wouldn't make any difference though.

The only possible justification for prosecution I can think of would be if someone is deliberately trying to pretend to be another real person.

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The internet is full of people who annoy the hell out of me, knowing their real names wouldn't make any difference though.

The only possible justification for prosecution I can think of would be if someone is deliberately trying to pretend to be another real person.

And doing them harm, which they could sue for now.

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And doing them harm, which they could sue for now.

Since when has existing legistalation that could be used ever stopped some pointless new legislation from being added to the books?

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So what counts as a fake identity?

SpectrumFX isn't my real name. It's a Japanese guitar from the 1980's. Does that mean that the whole time I've been on here I've been pretending to be a guitar?

That's not me in the picture either!

Westone?

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Real names would be rather hugely variable, it would be effectively anonymous for all the John Smiths out there, rather less so for someone like me (I've never met anyone with the same surname who I'm not related to).

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However, the guidance also sets out less serious situations where prosecutions should be considered under a fourth category: where a false identity is used to post upsetting messages, including false information that could cause anxiety.

....

...there must be a balance between prosecuting people for malicious communications and protecting free speech - and only "grossly offensive" material could lead to prosecution

So if Osborne in the budget comes up with another mad idea to make houses "more affordable" which actually will of course make them more expensive (false information that could cause anxiety) and would be "grossly offensive" then he would be prosecuted?

I thought not.

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