copydude Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 It's spectacular, but in fact fatalities in the construction industry are not uncommon at all. People putting road drills through high voltage cables, all sorts of nasties. There's usually a massive fine from Health & Safety, before any compensation claims. The coroner's verdict makes a big difference in these cases, as there is a line between accidental death and unlawful killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 It is "highly unlikely" that three people missing in the Didcot power station collapse are alive, a local fire chief says. The second half of the building "could collapse at any time" as it has undergone the same process as the first half of the building, which collapsed, he added. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-35652621 Some points: Coleman and Company, the firm behind the demolition, tweeted that it was "working with all stakeholders to establish facts" and it urged concerned relatives of employees to get in touch. Ed Vaizey, the Conservative MP for Didcot, said the man who died and the three people who are still missing are based in the north of England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copydude Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ed Vaizey, the Conservative MP for Didcot, said the man who died and the three people who are still missing are based in the north of England Thanks Tory MP. That's alright then. "Was anyone hurt? Naaah, only a couple of chambermaids who jumped off the roof" - Evelyn Waugh's, ' A Handful Of Dust', after the fire at Hetton Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 An idea of scale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 A comment from the Daily Mail, not sure if there's any truth in it, are these Boilers suspended like this inside the Power Stations? Quote: "These boilers are absolutely massive and the entire boiler would be suspended by the boiler house steel structure, and hang like a CRADEL from top of the boiler house to the bottom, this was to allow for the boiler to expand as it was initially lit and running, the entire boiler had to move during operation otherwise if it was solidly attached, it would distort the external steelwork, this was how it was designed. Any attempt to weaken the outer steel supporting structure could be catastrophic if this was not realised" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 An idea of scale! The loss of potential revenue by scrapping that steel, with the scrap price on the floor, now, rather than earlier, must be absolutely enormous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 It's spectacular, but in fact fatalities in the construction industry are not uncommon at all. People putting road drills through high voltage cables, all sorts of nasties. There's usually a massive fine from Health & Safety, before any compensation claims. The coroner's verdict makes a big difference in these cases, as there is a line between accidental death and unlawful killing. One sector, where casualties don't seem so prevalent these days, is agriculture. You used to seem to be unable to go a week without some farmer deciding to go for a swim, in their own slurry tank, or getting maimed by a baler. I guess things there must have tightened up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 He seems a decent lad but I shall be grilling him about his movements yesterday afternoon. If he is a terrorist, on the plus side, he will probably deal with any stalkers swiftly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Meanwhile, two men who had been working at the site said they were lucky to avoid being there when it collapsed. Dylan Jones left the job last Friday and Matthew Overton quit on Tuesday morning - just hours before the tragedy. http://news.sky.com/story/1647885/tributes-to-didcot-power-station-collapse-victim Mr Overton told Sky News: "It's shown me never to take life for granted - I've had the luckiest escape." Wrapped in on Tuesday morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I wonder when / if the Police will release the names of those missing at the site? The Police are taking over the site as of now. Oh dear. I used to know the first person named. Poor sod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 A comment from the Daily Mail, not sure if there's any truth in it, are these Boilers suspended like this inside the Power Stations? Quote: "These boilers are absolutely massive and the entire boiler would be suspended by the boiler house steel structure, and hang like a CRADEL from top of the boiler house to the bottom, this was to allow for the boiler to expand as it was initially lit and running, the entire boiler had to move during operation otherwise if it was solidly attached, it would distort the external steelwork, this was how it was designed. Any attempt to weaken the outer steel supporting structure could be catastrophic if this was not realised" They are supported on springs f ,it`s all about thermal growth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copydude Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 An idea of scale! That's a great pic. (I say only as photographer.) The scale is quite fantastic. According to reports, the rubble is piled 30 plus feet high. And it is extremely dangerous for rescue operations to continue to work in these conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 An idea of scale! Fck! Makes wearing a helmet seem a bit pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Pfft there s no Didcot when will you conspiracy nutcases get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Reports the Military have now been brought in to the Didcot A collapse site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 A concern is that the remaining half of the building, having similarly been intentionally weakened prior to demolition, may also collapse. The search/rescue exercise is potentially very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Perhaps Tim Peake dropped his iPhone on it from space, whilst tweeting, and caused the collapse as he seems to be suspiciously quiet on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Perhaps Tim Peake dropped his iPhone on it from space, whilst tweeting, and caused the collapse as he seems to be suspiciously quiet on the subject. You'll have to forgive him, he is currently behind the dark side of the Moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Perhaps Tim Peake dropped his iPhone on it from space, whilst tweeting, and caused the collapse as he seems to be suspiciously quiet on the subject. If Tim Peake tweeted about anything, the BBC would make sure we knew about it, believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Fck! Makes wearing a helmet seem a bit pointless. There`s bigger boilers than that about and the big bit in the photo is just a part of the air ducting But it dose put the scale of heavy industry into perspective for those that has never seen/ experienced it first hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 The loss of potential revenue by scrapping that steel, with the scrap price on the floor, now, rather than earlier, must be absolutely enormous. Could be a few corners cut,demolition companies usually price a job factoring in the value of the scrap they recover ,scrap prices are less than a fifth now compared to 18 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think in time, Engineers from the Army might have to bring the other half down so that some of that wreckage can be moved without the risk of the rest coming down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think in time, Engineers from the Army might have to bring the other half down so that some of that wreckage can be moved without the risk of the rest coming down. I think there are enough civilan demolition experts on site already . I expect the Army has been called in because it has specialised rescue and surveying equipment, 'robots', drones, heat cameras, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think there are enough civilan demolition experts on site already . I expect the Army has been called in because it has specialised rescue and surveying equipment, 'robots', drones, heat cameras, etc. Yes but will civilian demolition experts be allowed back in there now? given the precarious situation of the remaing structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes but will civilian demolition experts be allowed back in there now? given the precarious situation of the remaing structure. Well it is a rescue mission right now, not demolition. Demolition experts don't do rescue missions. No need to let them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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