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Hillary Clinton And The Syrian Bloodbath - Watergate Ii?

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In the Milwaukee debate, Hillary Clinton took pride in her role in a recent UN Security Council resolution on a Syrian ceasefire:

But I would add this. You know, the Security Council finally got around to adopting a resolution. At the core of that resolution is an agreement I negotiated in June of 2012 in Geneva, which set forth a cease-fire and moving toward a political resolution, trying to bring the parties at stake in Syria together.

This is the kind of compulsive misrepresentation that makes Clinton unfit to be President. Clinton's role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.

In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton's intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan's peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats. Despite Clinton's insinuation in the Milwaukee debate, there was (of course) no 2012 ceasefire, only escalating carnage. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead.

As every knowledgeable observer understands, the Syrian War is not mostly about Bashar al-Assad, or even about Syria itself. It is mostly a proxy war, about Iran. And the bloodbath is doubly tragic and misguided for that reason.

Saudi Arabia and Turkey, the leading Sunni powers in the Middle East, view Iran, the leading Shia power, as a regional rival for power and influence. Right-wing Israelis view Iran as an implacable foe that controls Hezbollah, a Shi'a militant group operating in Lebanon, a border state of Israel. Thus, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel have all clamored to remove Iran's influence in Syria.

This idea is incredibly naïve. Iran has been around as a regional power for a long time--in fact, for about 2,700 years. And Shia Islam is not going away. There is no way, and no reason, to "defeat" Iran. The regional powers need to forge a geopolitical equilibrium that recognizes the mutual and balancing roles of the Gulf Arabs, Turkey, and Iran. And Israeli right-wingers are naïve, and deeply ignorant of history, to regard Iran as their implacable foe, especially when that mistaken view pushes Israel to side with Sunni jihadists.

Yet Clinton did not pursue that route. Instead she joined Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and right-wing Israelis to try to isolate, even defeat, Iran. In 2010, she supported secret negotiations between Israel and Syria to attempt to wrest Syria from Iran's influence. Those talks failed. Then the CIA and Clinton pressed successfully for Plan B: to overthrow Assad.

When the unrest of the Arab Spring broke out in early 2011, the CIA and the anti-Iran front of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey saw an opportunity to topple Assad quickly and thereby to gain a geopolitical victory. Clinton became the leading proponent of the CIA-led effort at Syrian regime change.

In early 2011, Turkey and Saudi Arabia leveraged local protests against Assad to try to foment conditions for his ouster. By the spring of 2011, the CIA and the US allies were organizing an armed insurrection against the regime. On August 18, 2011, the US Government made public its position: "Assad must go."

Bill was always one step ahead, will Hillary manage to do the same?

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Yet Clinton did not pursue that route. Instead she joined Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and right-wing Israelis to try to isolate, even defeat, Iran

Whats with washingtons recent de-sanctioning of Iran, then? Seems a bit at odds with trying to 'bring them in from the cold'

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Yet Clinton did not pursue that route. Instead she joined Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and right-wing Israelis to try to isolate, even defeat, Iran

Whats with washingtons recent de-sanctioning of Iran, then? Seems a bit at odds with trying to 'bring them in from the cold'

Get pally and then instigate another 'Arab spring'.

I was going to add a question mark to the end of that sentence, but why bother.

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Comparing what Clinton said to Watergate is absurd. Why stop there? Might as well accuse her of being Hitler, mark 2, or the devil incarnate.

Watergate = Nixon hired low-level criminals to rob political opponents, then tried to corrupt the US Justice Department to hide it all. Slightly different thing here.

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Comparing what Clinton said to Watergate is absurd. Why stop there? Might as well accuse her of being Hitler, mark 2, or the devil incarnate.

Watergate = Nixon hired low-level criminals to rob political opponents, then tried to corrupt the US Justice Department to hide it all. Slightly different thing here.

True, but why let facts get in the way of blind hatred?

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Comparing what Clinton said to Watergate is absurd. Why stop there? Might as well accuse her of being Hitler, mark 2, or the devil incarnate.

Watergate = Nixon hired low-level criminals to rob political opponents, then tried to corrupt the US Justice Department to hide it all. Slightly different thing here.

I wasn't born then, so obviously have no recollection, but how bad was Watergate in all seriousness. I suspect it was a big deal as it demonstrated to a largley naive and unsuspecting public that politicians are full of sh!t (particularly after poster boy JFK - even though he wasn't), but compared to what politicians ACTUALLY get up to, I'd say it was incredibly small chips.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html

Bill was always one step ahead, will Hillary manage to do the same?

Bill abused em, Hillary abused em again with process and harrassment. She is quite sick at the moment, both medically and mentally.

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She used an unsecured personal email to communicate national security sensitive information whilst she was secretary of state, then tried to cover it up. There's no way the Russians and Chinese will have failed to hack those emails. Why didn't she use the secure government servers provided to her? Her denials have been comical.

There's also her facilitating of her husband's sexual predation and her hounding of his victims...

Others have gone down for far far less. She's protected.

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