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Assisting retired teachers with the tax problems they may face when adding their fourth BTL to the portfoio on the back of their million pound final salary package all good comrade.

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Assisting retired teachers with the tax problems they may face when adding their fourth BTL to the portfoio on the back of their million pound final salary package all good comrade.

To make a profit in the dead tree press you need to know your readership.

To keep that profit you need to know how to offshore it.

Smoke n mirrors.

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The Guardian Media Group knows plenty about tax avoidance. They used some very aggressive offshore schemes to shelter profits from the Autotrader sale.

The then editor, Alan Rusbridger, penned an apology which ran along the lines of 'well, we publish left wing journalism so we shouldn't have to pay tax'

His rank hypocrisy spawned a new verb on the Guido Fawkes site. To rusbridge: to exhort others to pay increasingly large amounts of tax whilst carefully avoiding paying any oneself.

See also The Church of England, Margaret Hodge and Labour/Lib Dem ministers too numerous to mention.

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The Guardian Media Group knows plenty about tax avoidance. They used some very aggressive offshore schemes to shelter profits from the Autotrader sale.

The then editor, Alan Rusbridger, penned an apology which ran along the lines of 'well, we publish left wing journalism so we shouldn't have to pay tax'

His rank hypocrisy spawned a new verb on the Guido Fawkes site. To rusbridge: to exhort others to pay increasingly large amounts of tax whilst carefully avoiding paying any oneself.

See also The Church of England, Margaret Hodge and Labour/Lib Dem ministers too numerous to mention.

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GMG owns a property related business, I can't remember which one now, but I think it was one of those that make 'virtual tours' of a house, so one could argue they have an interest in keeping HPI. Not relevant to this story but food for thought.

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Meanwhile let's get back to the real enemy, the bankers and their bonuses, nothing wrong in providing tax advice to dedicated public servants like Polly Toynbee and Fergus Wilson.

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The Guardian Media Group knows plenty about tax avoidance. They used some very aggressive offshore schemes to shelter profits from the Autotrader sale.

The then editor, Alan Rusbridger, penned an apology which ran along the lines of 'well, we publish left wing journalism so we shouldn't have to pay tax'

His rank hypocrisy spawned a new verb on the Guido Fawkes site. To rusbridge: to exhort others to pay increasingly large amounts of tax whilst carefully avoiding paying any oneself.

See also The Church of England, Margaret Hodge and Labour/Lib Dem ministers too numerous to mention.

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Isnt this all lefties. The ever erudite Cheryl Cole going on about how she votes labour because they 'help' people from backgrounds like her (guess she didnt get raised in Rotherham). Then suddenly went quiet at the mere mention of the mansion tax

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11485070/Lifelong-Labour-voter-Cheryl-Fernandez-Versini-Mansion-tax-would-f-me-over.html

I think Charlotte Church objected as well. Although I do recall her mistaking 20% tax as a higher rate than 40% tax. Clearly I havent the level of education to understand how a Church government would deliver the goods, I suspect voodoo and a lot of singing is involved.

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Thing aren't going well at Guardian HQ. This seems to sum it all up: http://www.sodiumhaze.org/2015/07/26/the-guardian-has-morphed-into-the-daily-mail-so-elect-corbyn-and-ignore-them/

Tax avoidance, Lib Dem fandom. Although their assertion that the Guardian is a "right wing newspaper" is obviously tongue in cheek. Isn't it?

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Don't forget this is the paper that heroically grassed up Sarah Tisdall, a lowly clerk in the FO back in the 1980s who unwisely had leaked some documents to them

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Tisdall#Tell-tale_copies

The editor Peter Preston should have gone to jail to protect his source but when it came to the crunch both he and his newspaper simply did not have the balls to defy the authorities. The Guardians principles tend to be honoured by omission

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Isnt this all lefties. The ever erudite Cheryl Cole going on about how she votes labour because they 'help' people from backgrounds like her (guess she didnt get raised in Rotherham). Then suddenly went quiet at the mere mention of the mansion tax

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11485070/Lifelong-Labour-voter-Cheryl-Fernandez-Versini-Mansion-tax-would-f-me-over.html

I think Charlotte Church objected as well. Although I do recall her mistaking 20% tax as a higher rate than 40% tax. Clearly I havent the level of education to understand how a Church government would deliver the goods, I suspect voodoo and a lot of singing is involved.

Oh god what next 'its the mess we inherited' lol !

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I'm the type of lefty many on right-wingers here would smack in the face.

But everything that I read that pointed to just how entrenched an establishment can be, especially in controlling dissent (i.e. managing very carefully how far you can attack them) has reared it's ugly head in the Guardian's absolute vitriol for Jeremy Corbyn. It's just incessantly one-sided to make a mockery of a truly diverse press.

You expect it from the Right wing press, but when you see that the counter-balance allowed in opposing such right wingers is Blair-ism, it's clear that nothing different is ever allowed to be voiced in the mainstream.

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Leftie vs rightie is and was always ********. The Guardian is establishment like the other major 'papers. Haven't heard of that Sodium haze link above but they've got it right from a glance, if you're going by the old left/right distinction then the Guardian is a right wing newspaper. Centre right but still right. It's more or less like the Democrat Party in the US, liberal and neo-liberal.

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Leftie vs rightie is and was always ********. The Guardian is establishment like the other major 'papers. Haven't heard of that Sodium haze link above but they've got it right from a glance, if you're going by the old left/right distinction then the Guardian is a right wing newspaper. Centre right but still right. It's more or less like the Democrat Party in the US, liberal and neo-liberal.

..you forgot the sandals with grey socks.... :rolleyes:

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Leftie vs rightie is and was always ********. The Guardian is establishment like the other major 'papers. Haven't heard of that Sodium haze link above but they've got it right from a glance, if you're going by the old left/right distinction then the Guardian is a right wing newspaper. Centre right but still right. It's more or less like the Democrat Party in the US, liberal and neo-liberal.

Erm, no. The Graun is definitely centre-left. Case in point, look at their bizarre aversion to criticise the Cologne gimmegrant incident, even trying to turn the critique around to the German natives.

Honestly, this entire charade of trying to paint them as closet right-wingers stems from the ridiculous idea that they are now somehow "owned" by bankers, the boogeymen of the left.

Unencylopedia has a tongue-in-cheek article explaining it well: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Guardian

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Erm, no. The Graun is definitely centre-left. Case in point, look at their bizarre aversion to criticise the Cologne gimmegrant incident, even trying to turn the critique around to the German natives.

Honestly, this entire charade of trying to paint them as closet right-wingers stems from the ridiculous idea that they are now somehow "owned" by bankers, the boogeymen of the left.

Unencylopedia has a tongue-in-cheek article explaining it well: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Guardian

What makes their response to Cologne centre left rather than centre right? I appreciate the irony of sounding like Owen Jones' Establishment when talking about the Guardian being establishment but that's what it is. I'd say that Unencylopedia article actually supports my view.

Essentially they're concern trolling the working class and have been doing so for years.

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not really, everything has been drifting to the left over the past 20 years, so if the guardian have actually stayed the course and kept their original political line, they are now right wing fascists,

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Leftie vs rightie is and was always ********. The Guardian is establishment like the other major 'papers. Haven't heard of that Sodium haze link above but they've got it right from a glance, if you're going by the old left/right distinction then the Guardian is a right wing newspaper. Centre right but still right. It's more or less like the Democrat Party in the US, liberal and neo-liberal.

Yes but the Cold War is over now (for some at least) so in reality it's crony capitalism vs the rest.

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Erm, no. The Graun is definitely centre-left. Case in point, look at their bizarre aversion to criticise the Cologne gimmegrant incident, even trying to turn the critique around to the German natives.

They've gone all Cornbyinte if you look at the thread I started about PMQ reporting.

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As someone who went to a sink comprehensive, I find it somewhat galling listening about privilege, creating opportunities etc. from this shower:

http://order-order.com/2015/06/15/guardian-posh-whinge-backfires/

I have never understood why anyone listens to anyone who claims to be a socialist yet utterly fails to live by what they preach. Posh kids wearing che guevara t-shirts...whatever, by why would anyone take them seriously? That's the bit I don't understand

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As someone who went to a sink comprehensive, I find it somewhat galling listening about privilege, creating opportunities etc. from this shower:

http://order-order.com/2015/06/15/guardian-posh-whinge-backfires/

I have never understood why anyone listens to anyone who claims to be a socialist yet utterly fails to live by what they preach. Posh kids wearing che guevara t-shirts...whatever, by why would anyone take them seriously? That's the bit I don't understand

If you're 16 and baffled, spend a little time on here and you'll begin to understand why the equivalent is asked of supposed 'capitalists'. Then you can enjoy them both accusing each other as a means of (hypocritically) authenticating their own position.

You'll then have quickly arrived in the 'real world' of politics, saving you a decade of disenchantment and disillusion and you'll be able to better focus on matters of substance.

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