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Has The Us Revolution Begun ?

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/04/oregon-militia-occupying-wildlife-refuge-wants-to-overthrow-government-says-sheriff

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Oregon militia occupying wildlife refuge aims to overthrow government, says sheriff"

Blimey. I always said the USA was the country to watch. The right to bear arms is actually a mechanism to keep the 1%ers feet on the ground.

The founding fathers were mucho clever.

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They're not very effective revolutionaries. They forgot to take enough supplies for a siege and have put out a call for people to send them food, water etc.

There's a lot of chatter on the web about mailing them deer droppings.

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The founding fathers were mucho clever.

Indeed. Amazes me how much of the intention of the constitution resonates with circumstances we are experiencing today. The fundamental threats addressed are still the same now as they were then.

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Indeed. Amazes me how much of the intention of the constitution resonates with circumstances we are experiencing today. The fundamental threats addressed are still the same now as they were then.

There's not much new under the sun.

Banking is banking.

It's arithmetic based, You can dress it up how you like but it's intrinsically, I give you X right now because you need it and you give me X+Y back or I take you sheep.

Gambling is Gamblking

It's also arithmetic based, You can dress it up how you like but it's intrinsically, You give me X right now and if a ( supposed ) random event occurs I give up X+Y back out of the winnings from all the other mugs that didn't pick the winner.

Insurance is Gambling

Investing is Gambling but somehow someone somewhere decided to dress it up as banking and use the banked money for gambling !!!!

Savings/lending mortgages is Banking

It's not ****ing complicated the founding fathers must have known what or who caused the problems in societies and acted responsibly and "for the people"

They must be spinning in their graves.

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The revolution starts in a wildlife centre?

Isn't this over fees for grazing cows on federal land?

I've got to admit, it did sounds a bit funny.

Dont they want the land back that they took from the Indians ?

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Half a dozen swat agents took out what, 100 armed religious types in Waco fairly easily. Most americans might have guns. Few actually seem to know how to aim them with much effect.

Like I saw, it's a funny country.

Imagine tiananmen square where half of them have guns !!!

We'd soon find out who the army is there to protect one way or the other.

Scary thought really.

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Many moons ago, Nuggets Mahoney highlighted a little known episode in US history, the Battle of Blair Mountain. The Wiki page is worth a read, especially if you're wondering what the inevitable outcome of any nonsense from a recalcitrant population will be..... Now back into line! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

Read that thanks. Yeah, it's quite shocking.

Let's face it there is nothign the establishment wont do to maintain their position. It takes revolution to change this then all you do it replace 1 set of power mad c**ts with cuns with another.

Societies best hope is for the internet to awaken the slumbering young generation and get them to stand/vote against the establishment then actutally change things. Can't see it happening though, hence moving a republic is the only course of action I can recommend to anyone.

Here's a good one, tanks in George Square glasgow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_George_Square

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/remembering-the-day-90-years-ago-1006816

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Last time I posted this somewhere someone told me I'd made it up!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

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Read that thanks. Yeah, it's quite shocking.

Let's face it there is nothign the establishment wont do to maintain their position. It takes revolution to change this then all you do it replace 1 set of power mad c**ts with cuns with another.

Societies best hope is for the internet to awaken the slumbering young generation and get them to stand/vote against the establishment then actutally change things. Can't see it happening though, hence moving a republic is the only course of action I can recommend to anyone.

Here's a good one, tanks in George Square glasgow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_George_Square

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/remembering-the-day-90-years-ago-1006816

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Last time I posted this somewhere someone told me I'd made it up!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

I don't think the old-timers in the Welsh Valleys would doubt you. There are still people who don't have much time for Winston Churchill after the events in Tonypandy over a century ago.

Edit: vocab

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The blindness and inability to reason of the NRA nuts is little different to the blindness of the HPI nuts, they don't care about the carnage so long as they're happy. Actually if Obama had just added a bit about checking whether gun buyers were Muslim they'd probably give him his full support.

An insight as to just how f-ed up the US is, 6 days into this year in the glorious US of A there has been this much gun crime:

Total Number of Incidents 587

Number of Deaths1 161

Number of Injuries1 359

Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed/Injured1 10

Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed/Injured1 28

Mass Shooting2 1

1: Actual number of deaths and injuries
2: Number of INCIDENTS reported and verified

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

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I'm not quite sure what goes off in the States, doesn't Canada have similar levels of gun ownership but a fraction of the gun crime?

I find it difficult to comment on gun ownership. I understand why Americans originally set out for civilians to be armed, knowing how oppressive & murderous states all over the world have been on their own people. Unfortunately a small % of madmen ruin a good principle.

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I'm not quite sure what goes off in the States, doesn't Canada have similar levels of gun ownership but a fraction of the gun crime?

I find it difficult to comment on gun ownership. I understand why Americans originally set out for civilians to be armed, knowing how oppressive & murderous states all over the world have been on their own people. Unfortunately a small % of madmen ruin a good principle.

I'm not totally sure but I think in Canada they do heinous things like screening people who want to buy gun! This the very thing that the NRA nuts have got their knickers in a twist about.

The per capita figures say a lot, in the US there are more guns than people! Canada is no where near that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

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I'm not totally sure but I think in Canada they do heinous things like screening people who want to buy gun! This the very thing that the NRA nuts have got their knickers in a twist about.

The per capita figures say a lot, in the US there are more guns than people! Canada is no where near that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Canadians are too polite to do anything as rude as shoot someone.

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Militias groups expanded massively when Obama became president. Didn't change much.

Funny that, because I remember people saying that America would never let a black man become president, and if he got elected he would get immediately shot.

Euphoria as the pessimists were proved wrong...

...except in the event...they didn't really allow him to be president and they went gun crazy.

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I'm not quite sure what goes off in the States, doesn't Canada have similar levels of gun ownership but a fraction of the gun crime?

I find it difficult to comment on gun ownership. I understand why Americans originally set out for civilians to be armed, knowing how oppressive & murderous states all over the world have been on their own people. Unfortunately a small % of madmen ruin a good principle.

Molyneux has concentrated on the 'race and crime' issue at the moment, saying basically, there are several america's. White and Asian, black, and somewhere in the middle, hispanic. Noting that europeans have the same murder rate whether they happen to reside in the US or Europe. Obviously, with increasing non-white populations in Europe, and given not many european countries break down crime stats by race, its difficult to draw a precise conclusion, but the data is nonetheless interesting.

ie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

In aggregate, the US looks quite high...3.8 murders/100k. Compared to Germany at 0.9, the UK and France at 1.0, Australia at 1.1 and Belgium at 1.6. But when looking at white on white murders alone, the US falls to 10 per million (1.01 per 100k)

https://atlas.qz.com/charts/E1pEnFs7e

Basically, If you are white and middle class, and live in a white and middle class part of the US, you have to worry about getting shot to death about as much as you do being stabbed to death in the UK.

What seems true is that if guns are available, more people commit suicide by gunshot, and more people commit murder by gun. But having guns doesnt seem to actually change the overall suicide or murder rate much, if at all.

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Another interesting article on race and gun deaths...In Utah, you are actually less likely to be shot if you are black than if you are white, and no more likely in New Mexico!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/19/the-racial-divide-in-americas-gun-deaths/

It seems being black AND living in a big northern city means getting shot :D:blink:

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