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Divorce Form Error 'could Have Led To Unfair Settlements'

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The vast majority of people don't read numbers in a logical framework. They just take the end number. This is even more prevalent if there are lots of words involved. Judges, lawyers, etc don't seem to be any different. Even accountants don't read numbers outside of their close framework. Every now and then you find people for whom you can give a table of numbers and they'll just pick out a number halfway down and say 'that number is wrong' - and when pointed out everyone will exclaim that it is obviously wrong, and how come no-one saw it before. But it is like truly inventive innovation - after the fact everyone calls it obvious and the true ability of the person finding the wrong number / innovation is just ignored.

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That's this forum fecked then.

To be fair I don't think we think alike at all. You could look through all the different threads/boards and see any number of different views and opinions.

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It took a client to see the numbers didn`t add up, and queried it.

Liabilities should have been subtracted from total assets, of both parties and the figure then used to calculate any divorce settlement. What has been happening is, liabilities were not actually subtracted, and total assets were being used as final figures.....only been going on for about 18 months.. :blink:

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Just thought you should know, there is a form fault on the National Early Warning Score sheet for patients in hospital.

I pointed it out on training, but was met with indifference.

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The guardian reported this first, the BBC are just copying their story Daily Mail style

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/dec/17/revealed-divorce-software-error-to-hit-thousands-of-settlements

The HMCTS email did not thank her for spotting the problem but explained, in a defensive tone: “It is not our policy to change dates for technical errors, but to show that a change has happened we have added an additional code.”

Great, so for people to figure out that the form was wrong and has changed they need to decypher some 'code' thats really helpful guys. /sarcasm

I find it hard to believe they are relying on PDF forms for a legal process, one of the most unreliable bits of technology you could choose.

Still it's a step up from Word Perfect the other IT mainstay of the legal profession.

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The guardian reported this first, the BBC are just copying their story Daily Mail style

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/dec/17/revealed-divorce-software-error-to-hit-thousands-of-settlements

The HMCTS email did not thank her for spotting the problem but explained, in a defensive tone: “It is not our policy to change dates for technical errors, but to show that a change has happened we have added an additional code.”

Great, so for people to figure out that the form was wrong and has changed they need to decypher some 'code' thats really helpful guys. /sarcasm

I find it hard to believe they are relying on PDF forms for a legal process, one of the most unreliable bits of technology you could choose.

Still it's a step up from Word Perfect the other IT mainstay of the legal profession.

I still think it odd you can sign online too...how could anyone prove it was actually you or me who clicked that mouse.?

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To be fair I don't think we think alike at all. You could look through all the different threads/boards and see any number of different views and opinions.

No you can't.

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The guardian reported this first, the BBC are just copying their story Daily Mail style

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/dec/17/revealed-divorce-software-error-to-hit-thousands-of-settlements

The HMCTS email did not thank her for spotting the problem but explained, in a defensive tone: “It is not our policy to change dates for technical errors, but to show that a change has happened we have added an additional code.”

Great, so for people to figure out that the form was wrong and has changed they need to decypher some 'code' thats really helpful guys. /sarcasm

I find it hard to believe they are relying on PDF forms for a legal process, one of the most unreliable bits of technology you could choose.

Still it's a step up from Word Perfect the other IT mainstay of the legal profession.

It can add and subtract OK if you put the calculation in correctly.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35128010

"Having discovered the fault and advised the MoJ, it became apparent that not a single solicitor, barrister or judge in the whole of the UK had noticed this error. It is such a critical fault."

Its good to see our eagle eyed solicitors are on the ball.

well, if this is true, then the legal profession should undertake remedial action free of charge.

the attorney general would be within their rights to decree such action.

If you buy a car, and it has a defective component, it is covered under warranty, is it not?

in this case, the machinery(legal paperwork), and the inspectorate failed to diagnose a problem which left the system "unroadworthy"

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well, if this is true, then the legal profession should undertake remedial action free of charge.

the attorney general would be within their rights to decree such action.

If you buy a car, and it has a defective component, it is covered under warranty, is it not?

in this case, the machinery(legal paperwork), and the inspectorate failed to diagnose a problem which left the system "unroadworthy"

It seems that way. There will be a few solicitors looking over their shoulders. The buck stops with them.

Some of the (warring) parties could well want to scrap their divorce agreements completely and start all over again, especially if they thought themselves hard done by in the first place. This could swing the figures even more toward their ex partners favour in some cases...oh dear

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