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Interest Rate Lift Off

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I'll believe it when I see it but by all accounts this is about to happen in the us.

how high, how quickly and for how long is going to be the question.

this could be the funniest thing we've seen in year.

if you Google fed save hike all the UK media are screaming that this is a bad idea.

all the us media are saying this is needed.

squeal piggies squeal

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Much more significant will be the next IR decision after they increase - up again or back down.

the us are using the phrase, lift off, rather than rate rise.

this does imply more increases.

it's going to be funny to watch either way.

if the rates drop sticky then the us are admitting their economy is toast this will have profound effects and should result in the UK housing pyramid scheme collapsing.

if the keep pushing up rates then the UK housing pyramid collapses.

pop corn time.

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Each monthly decision is a coin toss. However, rates will stay very low (prob go negative) for many years.

There are as many pros as cons for a rise next week.

Futures give 75% prob of a rise. However, each time for a year it's been above 50% at this stage and each time they haven't raised. However, as you say, market strongly believes it this time.

If does raise, expect jump in US$ and stocks and fall in Euro and commodities. Then, almost immediately (days or early Jan due to Xmas) expect major reversal. Major.

If doesn't raise expect the reversal (as it were).

Edited by Killer Bunny

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Dollar will fall. Stocks and commodities will rise.

Dollar will rise as it pays more to hold the $, the expectation of a rise is why the $ has been strong for a year. It's pretty much priced in & hardly a shock to anyone when it happens. It signals the economy is robust so it's very bullish for the markets.

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Dollar will rise as it pays more to hold the $, the expectation of a rise is why the $ has been strong for a year. It's pretty much priced in & hardly a shock to anyone when it happens. It signals the economy is robust so it's very bullish for the markets.

Even if a rate rise expedites a meltdown?

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One thing for sure the plunge protection team wont be on holiday the day they raise rates, markets are rigged beyond imagination nowadays by CB intervention , my expectations is that they will find another reason not to raise its always seems to happen.

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Is that before or after the FTSE gets to 10,000?

FTSE 10k is my stretch target for the end of this cycle (bull market), which could be as far off as end of decade.

SPX new highs will be Q1. possbily even this month. FTSE new highs likely a little later. Lets say by end Q2.

Im (personally) expecting this short term equity weakness to end within 1 week or so & offer a decent buying opp (3-6 months out. My usual timeframe)

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If they raise interest rates, it means they want it to collapse. Some body here already said "it will suck dollars off the moon".

When the time is right they will collapse the system. Chaos

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Don't assume these two things:

1. The Fed is just stupid and ignorant

2. The Fed wants the economy to do well

It's all about the bankers and always will be in a debt based financial system. Stateless makes a good point about them crashing the system when the time is right.

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If they raise interest rates, it means they want it to collapse. Some body here already said "it will suck dollars off the moon".

When the time is right they will collapse the system. Chaos

Why?

Edited by R K

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So glad someone knows the future. Truly astonishing that someone has the gall to say this.

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They may do or they may not (I'm bearish myself) but to say this or that WILL happen 'Obviously'!

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Edited by Killer Bunny

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So glad someone knows the future. Truly astonishing that someone has the gall to say this.

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They may do or they may not (I'm bearish myself) but to say this or that WILL happen 'Obviously'!

I know you struggle with all this stuff. But your comprehension is hardly my problem.

Edit: predictive text boll-x

Edited by R K

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Don't assume these two things:

1. The Fed is just stupid and ignorant

2. The Fed wants the economy to do well

It's all about the bankers and always will be in a debt based financial system. Stateless makes a good point about them crashing the system when the time is right.

Or 3. Fed and bankers out for themselves (obviously) but they have actually lost control this time. Too many big straws in the wind?

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so in summary.

dollar will rise, or fall.

stock market will rise, or fall.

house prices will collapse.

I do love this forum.

No. That's not what has been written.

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Why?

More graft for those in the "inner sanctum" as people rush to borrow to snap up cheap assets? Bloomberg today saying this is a "New Era" for Wall St, but as a slimmed down NY centric entity, as it used to be what 30 years ago?, so trimming global operations, mucho pay offs and the absolute cream of the "talent" being drawn back to the mothership to profit from the coming storm?

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