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Is Isis In Crisis? Syrians Who Once Supported Islamist Extremists Are Now Repulsed By Their Brutality

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/is-isis-in-crisis-syrians-who-once-supported-it-are-now-repulsed-by-its-brutality-a6761061.html

The very foundations of the caliphate appear to be crumbling. Territories once enjoyed by the “Islamic State”, and brutally enforced public support are, perhaps for the first time, under serious threat.

Amid defections from fighters, often unpaid because of air strikes on oil supply lines and a sclerotic economy, the caliphate appears weaker than ever. And its adherence to a brutal view of Islam, enforced by unwelcome foreign fighters, is creating unrest among the people it is struggling to keep within its borders.

While a complete collapse is not imminent – despite recent defeats and air strikes, Isis remains a potent military force in Iraq and Syria – the withering support for the Islamist group could present an opportunity for its enemies – rebel groups including the al-Qaeda-aligned Jabhat al-Nusra and the army of President Bashar al-Assad.

According to surveys of those still living under Isis rule in Syria, and those who recently fled to Turkey, the brutality of life under Isis, once tolerated, is now not. Those living in Raqqa, the de-facto capital bombed day and night by coalition raids, claim they have been banned from leaving the city. Isis, they say, wants more civilians to die for the purposes of propaganda. There is, however, another reason for forcing people to remain: analysts suggest that, amid the bombing of smuggling routes, the taxes collected from citizens could provide vital income.

Those who have fled say the group has gone too far in its approach to education, indoctrinating Syrian children in a brutal perversion of Islam. Marea is a town of less than 20,000 residents north of Aleppo and west of Raqqa. Surrounded on three sides by Isis, a group of women from the town gathered last week to speak of their experiences at a rare focus group. “They are like a monster that suddenly appeared,” said one young mother, who like the other women at the meeting, did not want to be named. Another woman added: “Daesh [isis] are the death that is stretching from the east. When you see them it is as if you are seeing the Angel of Death. They are the ugliest thing that has emerged from the most beautiful thing [islam].”

Brutality always fails as people will either move away or rebel. I wonder what those think who fled the West to join this utopian dream really think now they are there and living the dream?

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/is-isis-in-crisis-syrians-who-once-supported-it-are-now-repulsed-by-its-brutality-a6761061.html

Brutality always fails as people will either move away or rebel. I wonder what those think who fled the West to join this utopian dream really think now they are there and living the dream?

It worked pretty well for the Romans for about 1,000 years. And the Egyptians before them.... and...

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It worked pretty well for the Romans for about 1,000 years. And the Egyptians before them.... and...

It can work for a time, but in the modern era the lifespan of a brutal regime is short lived in comparison. Stalin, Mao, Hitler etc... all killed millions and all failed. The other European empires fell.

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It worked pretty well for the Romans for about 1,000 years. And the Egyptians before them.... and..

Roman power (and the power of countless other similar regimes and empires) was steeped in mass murder and institutional sadism however it had its form of effective recruitment in form of citizenship, the attainment of wealth, and somewhat stable legal codes. Of course the Romans would today be the intractable enemies of mankind if they summarily executed thousands of people by nailing them to beams of wood along a road, but the system kept ticking over when ex-slaves and serving soldiers could be handsomely rewarded and move up the pecking order.

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