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Thats interesting. A fair few of the bottom nations I would associate with high level female political leaders/PM's etc..

Token leaders ? Or women leaders that arent too keen [behind the scenes] on other women being in such strong positions as well ?

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What does "progressive" mean in this context? (Or any, daft meaningless word).

Looking at that list shows that the most successful economies have the lowest number of women business leaders.

Of course we could rush to match the powerhouse success of Russia's economy by immediately doubling our number of women business leaders.

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What does "progressive" mean in this context? (Or any, daft meaningless word).

Looking at that list shows that the most successful economies have the lowest number of women business leaders.

Of course we could rush to match the powerhouse success of Russia's economy by immediately doubling our number of women business leaders.

That was my immediate reaction to it, really depends on the level of business we are talking about. Without commenting on the rights or wrongs, but how many massive global businesses are operating out of Poland, Georgia and Latvia as opposed to the UK, US and Japan.

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No coincidence that two of the most successful nations are Germany and Japan? :rolleyes:

EDIT: Note to self, read thread first in full.

:) We've all done it.

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If it makes good business sense why aren't business employing more women? Might there actually be systematic factors and preferences at work here explaining the different outcomes?

Is the lack of highly paid and powerful women really a particularly pressing type of inequality? Shouldn't there be greater concern about those below average earnings if inequality is the concern?

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If it makes good business sense why aren't business employing more women? Might there actually be systematic factors and preferences at work here explaining the different outcomes?

Is the lack of highly paid and powerful women really a particularly pressing type of inequality? Shouldn't there be greater concern about those below average earnings if inequality is the concern?

The simple answer is that it is systematic; but not actively discriminatory.

In order to make it to the top of a big company you have to pretty much give your life over to that company for twenty or thirty years; not just working hard during the day but taking every opportunity to network at evenings and weekends. John Harvey Jones spent nearly evening after a long day's work sitting in the company's basement bar drinking and talking work. In the Shell building in London there are flats for the top people; this is not just a perk, they are expected to be on-site most of the week and a lot of the weekend.

It is a very unbalanced life and a lot more men than women are prepared to do this. Add in that whilst men are happy earning money while their wife sits around and spends it; but women tend to be very unhappy when that situation is reversed and there you have it.

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Is the lack of highly paid and powerful women really a particularly pressing type of inequality? Shouldn't there be greater concern about those below average earnings if inequality is the concern?

You mean the fact that, other things being equal, women are paid fractionally more than men?

That is to say, the strong correlation of male pay to height means that the average woman is paid a little more than the average man of her height. An observation that might just suggest the usual tired old debate is missing something.

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The subject is "women in in business leadership by country" but the chart is "change from long run average". Very different things. There's not enough information to fully analyse.

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What does "progressive" mean in this context? (Or any, daft meaningless word).

I think the list demonstrates very clearly that socialism is great for forcing more women into paid work. It just occured to me that most of the top countires are ex-socialist.

The subject is "women in in business leadership by country" but the chart is "change from long run average". Very different things. There's not enough information to fully analyse.

The headline figure is 'Proportion of business roles held by women'. It's the wee arrow that shows the 'change from long run average' bit.

What I find interesting though is that despite all the feminist PR being pumped into my ear canals every day by the mainstream media, I never heard that Russia or Poland are so close to achieveing the 50:50 "equality".

The UK feminists tend to glorify the Scandinavian countries, but it seems that the reality on the ground proves them wrong.

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If you look at the report, they say that this is actually a survey of mid-market companies and that they don't have a consistent definition for mid-market across all countries, though in Europe, it's suppose to be 50 to 499 employees.

Surveys like this can throw up odd findings because a lot of more conservative countries are dominated by family-run businesses, so you can have a woman in a management position, but she's only there because she's the founder's daughter or grand-daughter. Not sure that explains Eastern Europe, though the report does point out that there are 120 women for every 100 men in the general population of Russia.

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