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http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=479

This is good, et for 2004 and the net worth of uk's assets is doing great.. rising hugely.

this will either make you cry, scream, laugh or a mixture of all.

I won't patronise you by pointing out the obvious.

http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/resea...99/rp99-111.pdf

this is not exactly the paper I wanted.. but on page 13 it will show the housing stock levels flat durring the last crash after a climb to 1981.. Supply wasn't a problem then..

I am trying to find a graph showing the housing stock over the last decade and I want to map that against the population.

Remember the most common VI spin is not to show you the population. but to tell you how many are getting born and are imigrating. Why do they tell you this? because people also die.. and if they don't mention that you don't spot it.. They hope.

bare with me. populkation is growing.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=950

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/images/charts/950a.gif

population 1971 : 59,113,500

population 2004 : 59,835,000

we have an increase of 721,500 people since 1971

so how has the housing stock changed since 1971?

More digging.

UK housing stock

in 1991 housing stock was 23,550,000

in 2001 housing stock was 25,382,000

thats an increase of 1,832,000

so, aas my figures don't correlate..

So the population has increased by only 721,500 since 1971

but between 1991 and 2001 there were 1,832,000 more homes

so in the ten year period between 1991 and 2001 there was 2.5 houses built for ever extra person living in the country since 1971.

Housing shortage my hairy bottom

Can someone please track the increase in housing against population for the last 30 years for example..

it would make interesting reading..

What I have found show that the housing stock seems to massivly outstrip population growth.

The figures are not up to today.. and don't match the years..

but I am fed up with the BBC talking about housing and then interviewing some VI estate agent with his walls full of houses he can't sell talking about a shortage.

it upsets me..

Grrrrr!

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Another fib peddled by the real estate fraternity is 'availability of land'. You can build a block of ten luxury flats in the garden of an average detached house. If they are well built, many people would prefer them to the detached house.

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What the VI's also say is that the changing structure of the household unit, more singles, means we need many more properties. That is probably true, but there are 10's of 1000's of flats being planned / built / completed as we speak.

See this artical in the blog

http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/property/mai...7/ixptop12.html

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http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=479

I am trying to find a graph showing the housing stock over the last decade and I want to map that against the population.

Remember the most common VI spin is not to show you the population. but to tell you how many are getting born and are imigrating. Why do they tell you this? because people also die.. and if they don't mention that you don't spot it.. They hope.

bare with me. populkation is growing.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=950

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/images/charts/950a.gif

population 1971 : 59,113,500

population 2004 : 59,835,000

we have an increase of 721,500 people since 1971

so how has the housing stock changed since 1971?

More digging.

UK housing stock

in 1991 housing stock was 23,550,000

in 2001 housing stock was 25,382,000

thats an increase of 1,832,000

so, aas my figures don't correlate..

So the population has increased by only 721,500 since 1971

but between 1991 and 2001 there were 1,832,000 more homes

so in the ten year period between 1991 and 2001 there was 2.5 houses built for ever extra person living in the country since 1971.

Housing shortage my hairy bottom

Grrrrr!

You need to measure the total number of households rather than raw population. Household numbers have grown by 5.7 million (or over 30%) between 1971 and 2001. This is largely down to a massive increase in the number of single person households...

http://www.sustainable-development.gov.uk/performance/36.htm

I'm no Bull, just pointing out the facts...

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You need to measure the total number of households rather than raw population. Household numbers have grown by 5.7 million (or over 30%) between 1971 and 2001. This is largely down to a massive increase in the number of single person households...

http://www.sustainable-development.gov.uk/performance/36.htm

I'm no Bull, just pointing out the facts...

so the number of people has grown by 700,000

but also 5.7 million households...?

bless..

you have to know when smoke is being blown up your ****..

pardon me.. I mean no offence.. but the statistic you have shown is to show that we are struggling for homes.. to show what VI's including the government want you to think

We need more households.. I want my arm to live in one house, my bottom in another.. head in a nice flat with a view..

does that sound right? I mean..

okay... STOP BEING AND ****

renters.. here is a question

How many times have you struggled to find a place to live..?

think about that..

we are being lied to.

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so the number of people has grown by 700,000

but also 5.7 million households...?

bless..

you have to know when smoke is being blown up your ****..

pardon me.. I mean no offence.. but the statistic you have shown is to show that we are struggling for homes.. to show what VI's including the government want you to think

We need more households.. I want my arm to live in one house, my bottom in another.. head in a nice flat with a view..

does that sound right? I mean..

okay... STOP BEING AND ****

renters.. here is a question

How many times have you struggled to find a place to live..?

think about that..

we are being lied to.

If you can't understand how a greater proportion of people living on their own increases the number of households far greater than the limited population increases during the same period then there's not a lot of point in conversing.

Further, the stats I linked to show that there were 700,000 more dwellings than households in 1971 rising to 1 million in 2001.

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