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Completely pointless piece of BBC spin to prop up the housing market.

Was it me or did those 2 blokes actually hate each other but didn't want to admit it or the BBC told them to pretend that they liked each other for the cameras?

I would like to see an update on this in 6 months time.....negative equity and at each others throats!

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i caught the last 10 mins, they didn't look entirely comfortable with the whole arrangement.

How can you anyone possibly think taking part in a program like this is a good idea?

The fact that you have to resort to this sort of thing should tell you that something is fundamentally wrong with the market.

I missed how much they paid, where they bought etc. And as with all property porn they probably neglected to mention when all this happened. I'm guessing in the summer sometime?

We'll probably be seeing this as a repeat in 6-8 months time giving the impression that prices are continually spiralling upwards blah blah blah etc etc etc

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Shared ownership reminds me of the sort of impoverishment that you see in very poor countries where people live with strangers because they can't afford to do otherwise.

The government's policies (unrestricted lending, inflationary interest rates, tax breaks for second homes through lower council taxes, constant government backed VI spin etc) that have led to the housing crisis has created a whole new generation of homeless people without any hope of gaining a foothold on the wealth ladder.

What is ironic is that this unacceptable face of capitalism is coming from a party who purport to stand for the less advantaged in society. Nu Labour's policies have created the very society that they have stood against since the foundation of the Labour movement.

They have been in power too long and have become arrogant. Time for a change back to radical Toryism!

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They bought a three bedroomed house for £250k, the house was nice but you're right the nurse wanted a new best friend and the other guy just wanted a roof over his head.

I cannot see how that would work for more than 12 months, in which case you might as well rent.

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They have been in power too long and have become arrogant. Time for a change back to radical Toryism!

yes the tories will save us with their raft housing reform plans.

i hear all about them from their coke snorting etonian new leader. all about how the housing boom is a sheen and that the social implications for the future of the country are compromised.

or have they not mentioned housing at all in the last 4 years ?

dont vote tory. they will whip you even more.

dont vote. let extrmeme parties take command.

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yes the tories will save us with their raft housing reform plans.

i hear all about them from their coke snorting etonian new leader. all about how the housing boom is a sheen and that the social implications for the future of the country are compromised.

or have they not mentioned housing at all in the last 4 years ?

dont vote tory. they will whip you even more.

dont vote. let extrmeme parties take command.

Tony Blair's not exactly a state school urchin, is he? And I honestly find it hard to believe that he's never tried drugs - he's a hippy!

At least the Tories ran a country where individuals could thrive. Now we're ALL treated like the lowest common denominators.

What's the point in making any kind of effort to succeed if: education is too expensive unless you get it free/means tested, getting out of rented accommodation is impossible unless you are the very poor and get a council house, having savings is pointless because interest rates are abnormally low, voicing an opinion is pointless as Labour want to outlaw/hinder protests near the House of Commons (they must have something to hide).

The only way to get anything in this country is to be poor, ultra-rich, bent, or a politician.

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At least the Tories ran a country where individuals could thrive

a part of a country where a minority of rich individuals could thrive. mainly london.

the tories were really crap. dont believe anything else. this is why were all here in the first place.

they shot up council owning and killed off council building. creating the big boom we see now.

new labour are rubbish too, but slightly lesser so.

id say the tories had a really good chance to show us what they could do in 20 years.

and they did. and it wasnt any good at all. they were totally lost by 1992.

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Tony Blair's not exactly a state school urchin, is he? And I honestly find it hard to believe that he's never tried drugs - he's a hippy!

Please don't insult hippies.

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At least the Tories ran a country where individuals could thrive.

David Cameron has publicly stated that "your mortgages are safe with us [the Tories]". (do a search on the forum, there was a thread on it a couple of days ago) Translation: They will be as craven and desperate in propping up the housing market as Grabber Brown was, if not more. Remember it was the Tories who introduced MIRAS and the Right-to-Buy, and fuelled the last bubble by destroying the social rented sector. The Tories are the natural party of the property-owning landed aristocrat, always have been always will be (look at their current leader, an Old Etonian son of a stockbroker married to a scion of the Astor family!!! it doesn't get much more blue-blooded than that!).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron

David Cameron is the cousin of the Conservative political journalist and editor Sir Ferdinand Mount, 3rd Baronet and the grandson of Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet. Through the Mounts, he is related to many British aristocratic families, being descended from the 7th Earl of Denbigh, the 1st Earl of Ducie, the 1st Earl of Carnarvon, the 2nd Earl of Egremont, the 6th Duke of Somerset and the 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, as discussed here. He is also related to the British Royal Family by descent through his paternal grandmother from William IV of England. He is a fifth cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II. He is also a descendant of the Marquess of Montrose, as well as of Frederick V, Elector Palatine and Queen of Bohemia, the latter being Elizabeth daughter of King James I of England.

His wife is a descendant of Charles II of England and Barbara Villiers, as well a descendant of King Charles II via his daughter by Moll Davies. She is also a descendant of Francesco I de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany [2].

We must face the fact that there are only two powerful political parties in this country and neither of them are interested in doing anything to help FTBs.

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a part of a country where a minority of rich individuals could thrive. mainly london.

the tories were really crap. dont believe anything else. this is why were all here in the first place.

they shot up council owning and killed off council building. creating the big boom we see now.

new labour are rubbish too, but slightly lesser so.

id say the tories had a really good chance to show us what they could do in 20 years.

and they did. and it wasnt any good at all. they were totally lost by 1992.

Dead right. You can rent an ex-Council BTL for 850 quid a month in London, or if you are one of the lucky few who happen to be old enough or desperate enough to have slipped through, you can rent next door from the Council for about 380 quid a month. Then if you are really really lucky, and lived in the right borough and voted the right way you might have bought your house in the centre of London for a pound from some previous Tory council. Don't tell me the Tories will help me get housed.

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Shared ownership reminds me of the sort of impoverishment that you see in very poor countries where people live with strangers because they can't afford to do otherwise.

Plenty of that in this country, including well educated thirty-somethings. Pretty hard for anyone who is single to rent on their own in the South East.

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Can you tell me how the right to buy thier own home for the working class tenants changed the supply of housing?

The tory government of 1955 built most of the social housing you see in the UK in the most massive housebuilding program the country has ever seen. I have my reservations about Cameron, but I believe David Willets and David Davies is sincere in what they say about housing.

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Can you tell me how the right to buy thier own home for the working class tenants changed the supply of housing?

The tory government of 1955 built most of the social housing you see in the UK in the most massive housebuilding program the country has ever seen. I have my reservations about Cameron, but I believe David Willets and David Davies is sincere in what they say about housing.

Ah. The Tories giveth. The Tories taketh away. Those houses were built after the war when the general consenus was that the sacrifice that the people had made for their country entitled them to expect the country to make similiar commitment to them.

Then 30-40 years later same party comes along and gives them right to buy. Council stocks fell from a point where you would be housed in a week wherever you were (and some really nice ones flats that are worth a bomb now couldn't be given away - but they were flats, everybody wanted a house) to a point where under normal circumstances the waiting list for a one bedroom flat in a rubbish area is 8 years. Its just like an election. It doesn't take a lot of turnaround. If you have voids of 6% you have a feast, if your voids are 2% you have constant famine.

When thatcher introduced right to buy you will also notice that the units that got snapped up first were the spacy 3-6 bedroom terraces in good areas. All now in private ownership, all now unnavailable to families unless they can find 300-400 grand. Ah well, if we stick those underserving families in tower blocks they might kill themselves with crack. I trust the Tories too.

Also, they have said they will protect peoples mortgages. That means either:

1. The will artificially manipulate whatever way the can to hold this mad bubble up (same as it ever was - just like gordie), and I won't get a home of my own or

2. They will pay peoples mortgages for them at the taxpayers expense if they get into trouble, and I won't get a home of my own but I will pay for all of those that already have them

Either way, I don't get a house, and I pay for someone elses. They will also probably cut my job, so I may be on the dole (which saves me paying tax for somebody elses house), except they will probably cut the dole as well (and I still won't be able to get the mortgage relief because I don't have a house).

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The tory government of 1955 built most of the social housing you see in the UK in the most massive housebuilding program the country has ever seen. I have my reservations about Cameron, but I believe David Willets and David Davies is sincere in what they say about housing.

thats not true. those were the labour policies of beven and atley.

the crooked cons sold them off for votes in the early 80s. and then sold off all the public infrastructure.

this is why we have poor rail lines and everybody elses trains go at £160mph. they introduced private healthcare. blew the pound. caused huge unemployment. riots and would not introduce a min wages as they said it would cost jobs.

under the tories people worked for 2.74p per hour.

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yeah but he probably spends 22 of those hours sitting on his ass reading the sun, boiling kettles for pot noodles. then every now and again a call comes through on the red phone to go and clean up some spilt drinks in the main marquee.

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yeah but he probably spends 22 of those hours sitting on his ass reading the sun, boiling kettles for pot noodles. then every now and again a call comes through on the red phone to go and clean up some spilt drinks in the main marquee.

You know him? :o

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Is your bloke a fireman?

On the subject of council housing - The best house I ever lived in was a four bedroomed council house (ok, two of the rooms were box rooms) that I was fortunate enough to be allocated in my late teens. I stayed there for ten years.

To this day I regret giving it back to the council to enter the housebuying fallacy.

Would anybody in their teens have such luck now???

I don't think so

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yes. i met him at the last magic circle meeting.

he had a new my little pony and was producing endless doves from its rear exit.

then he disapeared in a puff of smoke. when it cleared all that was left were a set of tartan slippers and a pack of king sized rizzlas with parts torn of the pack for roaches.

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