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Could The Tide Be Turning Against North American Natural Gas?

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A lot of hope has been pinned on liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports as an outlet for surging North American gas supply. But a couple of events the past week show that getting LNG exports off the ground may be more difficult than most observers have predicted.

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Looks like they're presuming Labour get in next, then we'll have the blackouts ready for the election after...

[not a Labour thing - they've 10 years to sort it out and they haven't even worked out how many new installations they'll need]

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Well maybe World War III will bring to an end the climate change scam.

Aren't we importing wood pellets for the converted power stations. Hard to imagine a greater degree of up their own backside idiocy as 'carbon capture'.

ITV News have overtaken BBC in their moralising of late; actually heard "man's carbon dioxide is causing climate change."

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Aren't we importing wood pellets for the converted power stations. Hard to imagine a greater degree of up their own backside idiocy as 'carbon capture'.

Allows us to meet our EU carbon emissions limits, while actually increasing emissions compared with conventional power sources (when you include all the transportation costs)

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Well maybe World War III will bring to an end the climate change scam.

Aren't we importing wood pellets for the converted power stations. Hard to imagine a greater degree of up their own backside idiocy as 'carbon capture'.

ITV News have overtaken BBC in their moralising of late; actually heard "man's carbon dioxide is causing climate change."

Yes. Vast amounts of wood pellets are being imported from the US to fire Drax power station. They have even now got their own train to transport pellets from Liverpool docks to Drax.

In this case, they have been fairly careful about sourcing only waste from industrial wood processing, so there is a net carbon benefit, but this is a relatively limited source, and burning non-waste lumbar would likely be significantly worse for carbon emissions than burning gas in a brand-new power plant.

Carbon capture while it has been piloted, generally has only been piloted at scales where 1-10% of the exhaust gases are captured. Estimates for the construction complexity and cost of a 100% carbon capture system, put the construction cost and time on a par, or even higher than, new nuclear. Recent estimates from the DECC suggest that were such a project to be attempted in the UK, it would need at least a 12 year lead time, and capital costs in the region of £6-10 billion per GW. For comparison hinkley point C is expected to have capital costs in the region of £7-8 billion per GW.

I don't think this policy is too bad. We need a stopgap measure to reduce carbon emissions, and new nuclear is not going to be ready any time soon, and storage for renewable energy is also not going anywhere for the forseeable future. It makes sense to use gas CCGTs - the UK's gas supply is reasonably diverse, and there is also the fallback option of using oil in case of a gas shortage. With recent oil and gas price volatility, I would expect the plant operators to specify dual fuel capability in order to take advantage of gas/oil price arbitrage.

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Well maybe World War III will bring to an end the climate change scam.

Aren't we importing wood pellets for the converted power stations. Hard to imagine a greater degree of up their own backside idiocy as 'carbon capture'.

ITV News have overtaken BBC in their moralising of late; actually heard "man's carbon dioxide is causing climate change."

I think that's a given.

there won't be as many men left.

won't they look stupid if the temperatures keep on going up??!!

..bible says that is what happens as the traditional poles weaken and the shield comes down.

it is celestial geomagnetic changes causing climate change, not people.

the celestial bit is driven by induction into the terrestrial bit.

you get eddy currents in the magma, which causes the volcanoes to spew stuff out,and increased tectonic and hydrothermal activity...bible says that happens too.

the tidal stuff is also driven by convection, as well as gravity..and bible also says that.

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Allows us to meet our EU carbon emissions limits, while actually increasing emissions compared with conventional power sources (when you include all the transportation costs)

we should source all of our wood fired stuff from the EU then,surely.

they want to put crackpot schemes in place,it is them that will suffer

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Well maybe World War III will bring to an end the climate change scam.

Aren't we importing wood pellets for the converted power stations. Hard to imagine a greater degree of up their own backside idiocy as 'carbon capture'.

ITV News have overtaken BBC in their moralising of late; actually heard "man's carbon dioxide is causing climate change."

What the climate change that Exxon scientists allegedly knew about in 1981? http://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2015/11/02/452917035/a-missing-report-on-exxon-mobil-and-climate-changeThe New York attorney general is investigating whether Exxon mislead the public and its investors.

Must be a bummer when you can't even use your own scientists to disprove climate change, mind you it's probably cheaper for a company to pay-off retard right media outlets than to fund scientific research...

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we should source all of our wood fired stuff from the EU then,surely.

they want to put crackpot schemes in place,it is them that will suffer

Its worse than that. Was talking to a forrester a couple of years ago. The forced rush to biofuels has meant there is a shortage of materials for chip and the like adn large price increases in the price for board manufacture. Maybe China can make it for us and we can get it from there whilst raw materials here go up the chimney.

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