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Morris Ital Is 35 Years Old Today

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One of the most outstanding cars of the 80's is 35 years old today. Step forward the Morris Ital!

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http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/ar-cars/raise-a-glass-to-morris-ital-reaches-35/

With so many bad things coming out of what was Rover, such as the BMW Mini, Range Rover and Jaguar cars, its worthwhile to remember that the industrial behemoth that was British Leyland was able to get it so right with the Ital.

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You could get a cavalier or accord for less.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/sets/72157634745770981/

That said, I always thought the marina was well proportioned. Not like a Cortina, but nicer than the allegro/maxi/princess/ambassador.

Morris Marina which the Ital was based on, was styled by an ex Ford guy, responsible for MkII Cortina

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Lest we forget these cars were pretty poor on corrosion, pretty expensive on maintenance. Possibly a good car if you were a body repair specialist with a bit of mechanical knowledge thrown in.

Unfortunately British cars were a parade of rotten sills, wings and front panels in the eighties and the Ital was no exception. Very few lasted beyond ten years.

They used to say that Russian cars were made out of sardine cans but tbh British Leyland cars were not far behind, simply shocking on corrosion.

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I never drove an Ital. It was basically a Marina with a few tweaks and I have driven them. Even by the standards of the 1980s they were rubbish. I particularly hated the gearbox.

The only worse thing emerging from Leyland at the time was the Sherpa van which was like a Marina towing a tin shed.

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One of my friends had one. It usually had an overflowing ashtray, and always smelled of petrol.

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Did you intend to post this in the "what's the best business to setup to fail" thread?

[my uncle had one and it drove as though the front suspension was from a different car to the rear. IIRC too soft at the front, hard at the rear - but it was 30 years ago so I might have got it the wrong way round. Terrible gearbox as well. And I'm not particularly anti BL as I had a Maxi and that was fine. Apart from the terminal rust.]

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I had a Marina as a company car.

The wiper motor was louder than the horn.

The plastic seats didnt recline.

But...it had great headlights...square ones came on full beam with the main ones and you could illuminate the moon.

Everything broke...gearbox, back axle, engine ( replaced with a gold painted one)...

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Austin Allegro - 28 left. Always reminded me of hippos.

Steered like one too. Marina was the opposite. Drove accross France with friends, and it was floating all over the road. Terrifying. The BL garage we went to in France was amazing though.

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Austin Allegro - 28 left. Always reminded me of hippos.

The Austin All Agro. I would love to be able to go back in time and spy on the meeting where they decided that the steering wheel should be a shape other than round. What were they on.

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Always thought the Allegro was a beautifully deisgned car, wouldn't want to own one though...

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That's the "posh auntie" Vanden Plas version, for when you have fallen on hard times, and the Roller has been repossessed.

The Hyacynth Bucket Allegro! :wacko:

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Allegros were nowhere near as bad as made out! The Ital was though! :blink:

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Austin Allegro - 28 left. Always reminded me of hippos.

Nah, way more than that. There's still an owners club.

I like the design of the Allegro, think it looks great, but the one person I know who actually owned one said he had endless trouble with it. Which puts me off buying one as my practical classic.

I've just checked my assertion, 311 left about two years ago. The 28 that you're quoting must be one specific model of Allegro.

http://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/how-many-survived/austin/allegro

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Nah, way more than that. There's still an owners club.

I like the design of the Allegro, think it looks great, but the one person I know who actually owned one said he had endless trouble with it. Which puts me off buying one as my practical classic.

It was OK. Does look a bit dated now. There was a 1750 engine which went quite well. Basically they were a large Mini. The "innovative" and rather bizarre square steering wheel went after the bong wore off at BL. :blink: The Ital floated all over the road, as somebody mentioned earlier. :( I should be an expert on "crap cars". Oh, I am! Let's hear a cheer for the Hillman Avenger!

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It was OK. Does look a bit dated now. There was a 1750 engine which went quite well. Basically they were a large Mini. The "innovative" and rather bizarre square steering wheel went after the bong wore off at BL. :blink: The Ital floated all over the road, as somebody mentioned earlier. :( I should be an expert on "crap cars". Oh, I am! Let's hear a cheer for the Hillman Avenger!

Does it look dated, it doesn't to me? I forget the technical term but somebody posted on the " Difference" thread about convergence towards an expectation.

So I agree that it doesn't look like a modern hatchback, but that's because most hatchbacks look identical these days.

Exception for the new Mini and, though I think you'd have to be insane to risk your life by driving it, the ironically-named Smart Car.

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Did the Allegro door handles end up on a Lotus or other sports car of some sort of another, a bit of a parts bin mishmash?

Probably yes! The original Range Rover was made out of spare bits. Audi and Toyota do the same.

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