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just say on sky news that the police plan to use the m1 to generate revenue.

once again she public sector show utter and total contempt of the public.

they refuse to accept their austerity the same way we've had to accept ours.

disgraceful.

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Next it will be toll roads.......better to have a choice, nobody forces people to exceed the speed limit..... only for those where they either don't pay or the penalty to them is peanuts in the scheme of things. ;)

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Next it will be toll roads.......better to have a choice, nobody forces people to exceed the speed limit..... only for those where they either don't pay or the penalty to them is peanuts in the scheme of things. ;)

I agree. however car speedometers are not accurate hence why the set the cameras with a ten % tolerance. this lot want zero tolerance just so they can raise cash.

time to leave the UK, if you haven't already.

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I agree. however car speedometers are not accurate hence why the set the cameras with a ten % tolerance. this lot want zero tolerance just so they can raise cash.

time to leave the UK, if you haven't already.

.......from personal experience speedos tend to be under true rather than over.......my sat nav has a 4mph tolerance above car speedometer.

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This will be welcomed by the boomers who now complain about how fast everyone drives despite the ones I know regularly driving at +95 MPH when they were younger. The UK has been good to the boomers so it would not surprise me if there is not a major crack down on speeding soon.

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Won't work because it won't catch people out, if they know there is a speed limit on the whole M1. Now if they have sections that are enforced, and have that on rotation, that will bring in money. Forget variable limits are they have the limits on the gantries, and that will remind drivers of the limits continually - you want to catch people not paying attention.

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They will tax oxygen what trees breathe before they have finished. Luckily we will be able to sell off some of our body parts by then, to pay for some.

Corrected for you.

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I heard the Police Chief on the radio this morning quite blatantly using Washington Monument tactics.To paraphrase, 'We can lose 25 full time bobbies on the beat or we can generate £1m revenue by catching law breaking dangerous speeders'.

Expect far more of this as budgets are being squeezed.

So each officer is paid 40k? i doubt that.

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I heard the Police Chief on the radio this morning quite blatantly using Washington Monument tactics.To paraphrase, 'We can lose 25 full time bobbies on the beat or we can generate £1m revenue by catching law breaking dangerous speeders'.

Expect far more of this as budgets are being squeezed.

Dangerous speeders! :lol:

Very rarely do I see speed camera's outside schools or in heavily pedestrian movement areas where speeding might actually kill people.

Nope, its always on motorways (which are, despite the hysteria, by far the safest roads...even before speed cameras) where virtually everyone drives at 80-90mph and virtually never kill anyone.

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Almost any speed is starting to be dangerous these days with all the extra congestion on the roads and pavements - especially at night when a lot of don't have a clue about any sort of safety code.

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Everyone drives the speed limit on every road and the country would be in chaos.

Would love it to happen to see the resultant effect on productivity and GDP.

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I agree. however car speedometers are not accurate hence why the set the cameras with a ten % tolerance. this lot want zero tolerance just so they can raise cash.

Actually speedos aren't allowed to under-read, so they either over-read by a little or a lot. Things like tyre pressures can also affect the reading, but again they aren't allowed to under-read.

This means that if you are driving at an Indicated 70mph you might be really doing 63mph, 65mph or 69mph - but in no road-legal vehicle will you be doing >70mph.

So, there's no reason why the camera can't flash people at a Real 71mph, because that speed would most probably be an Indicated 76+mph, and no-one can pretend they "drifted" a full 6mph over by accident.

Once you add in the 10% +2mph ACPO guidelines, a camera flashing at a real 79mph turns out to be in the mid-high 80s on the car's speedo. Again, no way is that done by a driver by accident.

Calibrate your speedo using a satnav and GPS. You may be surprised at the results. Modern vehicles tend to be more accurate, though. There's nothing more annoying than being stuck for mile after mile in an average-speed 40mph roadworks cones zone, behind some bozo doggedly driving at 34mph because that's the speed their car goes when their speedo is indicating 40mph!

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Dangerous speeders! :lol:

Very rarely do I see speed camera's outside schools or in heavily pedestrian movement areas where speeding might actually kill people.

Nope, its always on motorways (which are, despite the hysteria, by far the safest roads...even before speed cameras) where virtually everyone drives at 80-90mph and virtually never kill anyone.

I had the pleasure of attending a speed awareness course a few of years ago. Bar a couple of people there were two traps that "offenders" triggered. One a very wide road with 30 limit, on a hill with zero pedestrian traffic, very difficult to tell relative speed (i.e. 30 in a normal scaled road) without head permanently planted in dashboard.

Other dual carriage way down steepest part of hill, 50 mph limit.

Both cameras positioned to pick up maximum qty of fines. with dubious safety benefits.

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I had the pleasure of attending a speed awareness course a few of years ago. Bar a couple of people there were two traps that "offenders" triggered. One a very wide road with 30 limit, on a hill with zero pedestrian traffic, very difficult to tell relative speed (i.e. 30 in a normal scaled road) without head permanently planted in dashboard.

Other dual carriage way down steepest part of hill, 50 mph limit.

Both cameras positioned to pick up maximum qty of fines. with dubious safety benefits.

Just got done by a similar sort of trap. On exiting a village road opens out to a long straight that begins 250 yds before the end of speed limit sign. - Guy with gun was basically hidden in a hedge right before the sign - I got caught while in a stream of traffic all doing c.35mph as we accelerated out of the village. No road safety issue (for traffic coming the other way into the village maybe) but very lucrative during rush hour on a week day.........

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So each officer is paid 40k? i doubt that.

Cost of employment =/= salary. Pension and NI contributions add directly to individual costs, organisation costs (HR, office space) get amortised across everyone. I was in a meeting discussing posts, and the total listed as 'saving' for cutting individuals/groups was about 150% of their salary.

As regards the headline - every car I've driven has an ingenious device in it, where a needle goes up against numbers By keeping the needle at, or below the number in circles beside the road, I've never been done for speeding. (Well, once, in America, where I figured plain states had no danger, and turns out the cops there have nothing else to do). If you know they're watching, you have to actively work at getting caught.

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Just got done by a similar sort of trap. On exiting a village road opens out to a long straight that begins 250 yds before the end of speed limit sign. - Guy with gun was basically hidden in a hedge right before the sign - I got caught while in a stream of traffic all doing c.35mph as we accelerated out of the village. No road safety issue (for traffic coming the other way into the village maybe) but very lucrative during rush hour on a week day.........

Mr B got caught doing 50 in a 30 limit near the M5 in Somerset. It is not remotely obvious that it's a 30 zone and there is not a single sign as you approach - we went back to check, twice to be sure -; although there are several in the other direction, both on posts and painted on the road. One of the court officials told him that he himself had been caught, as well as so many others, and they had repeatedly told the police that signs were needed. We could only assume that it was deliberate, to raise revenue.

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I've got one of those cheap knock off Camera Radar Detectors - that's how I've noticed that some Gatso cameras aren't on in Hampshire. In Dorset, they are mostly on. I've not had any mobile cameras to try it out on though. The detectors are legal, but they might become illegal to use in future.

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