interestrateripoff Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3284363/Mother-six-2million-45-year-shoplifting-career-lives-benefits-claims-wants-job-won-t-work-36-000-year.html Kim Farry, 54, started stealing on London high streets when she was nine At her peak she was earning around £50,000 a year from shoplifting Single mother wants at least £1,000-a-week to consider life off benefits Criminal has been in jail five times and has more than 30 convictions Claims employers ignore her job applications because she is 'too common' A thief known as Britain's 'shoplifting queen' because she made £2million in 45 years is now purely living on benefits and refuses to get a job unless it pays more than £36,000-a-year. Single mother-of-six Kim Farry lives rent free in a flat in Fulham and collects up to £250-per-week in cash handouts so believes that finding a normal job would force her to take a pay cut. The 54-year-old has calculated she needs £4,000-a-month to survive off benefits and claims employers refuse to give her work because she is ‘too common’. I'm guessing her problem is she has very little skills to offer someone who's willing to pay her £36,000, the benefit trap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I bet she's on tax credits, she should be on £74 a week JSA and jumping through hoops for it otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) One way or another we are all indirectly paying the cost of crime......far more in social and financial cost than benefits/ tax credits. Edited October 26, 2015 by winkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 In one sentence the Mall says she lives rent free but she's then quoted as saying she pays £715 /month rent. I wouldn't take an 18k job in London either. Not sure what people like this are actually supposed to do. Does the Mall want her paraded through the streets in sackcloth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor_Blade Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Perhaps she should apply for a job at Goldman Sachs, where greed & dihonesty are rewarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giesahoose Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 They should really start taxing benefits so people are not comparing apples and pears. To "get" 1k a week you actually need someone to pay you £77,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 She should move to a cheaper area of the country. This sort would probably also champion HPI if they ever got on the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 In one sentence the Mall says she lives rent free but she's then quoted as saying she pays £715 /month rent. I wouldn't take an 18k job in London either. Not sure what people like this are actually supposed to do. Does the Mall want her paraded through the streets in sackcloth? I guess it means that someone else (us) pays it. In ideal system she would have to do workfare for what she gets - and wouldn't live in Fulham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 if the were hungry enough... what has England become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 if the were hungry enough... what has England become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankstersparadise Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 They should really start taxing benefits so people are not comparing apples and pears. To "get" 1k a week you actually need someone to pay you £77,000 No because then, just like public sector workers, these people will convince themselves they are actually tax payers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 In one sentence the Mall says she lives rent free but she's then quoted as saying she pays £715 /month rent. I wouldn't take an 18k job in London either. Not sure what people like this are actually supposed to do. Does the Mall want her paraded through the streets in sackcloth? Send her to Redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honkydonkey Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Lives in Fulham. I'd like to live there too but can't afford it. Let's face facts, she makes way more money from benefits and shoplifting than getting an actual job. From her perspective why should she get a job? The system is broken. There is little punishment for being a criminal, just rewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Generation Game Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Perhaps she should apply for a job at Goldman Sachs, where greed & dihonesty are rewarded. While everybody else was cheating on their mental arithmetic exam, she was stealing pens (probably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Her best chance would be to go the poacher turned gamekeeper route for a big London store. I bet she is really good at spotting other shoplifters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomsilver Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Her best chance would be to go the poacher turned gamekeeper route for a big London store. I bet she is really good at spotting other shoplifters. I doubt it. She's been jailed 5 times and convicted 30 times (probably multiple offences rolled into each hearing and a spell in jail every sixth prosecution) during her career. So not a very good thief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Toast Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The incentive structure should change. Is there any reason why she should be housed in Fulham? Shouldn't she be moved to a perfectly nice, but much cheaper area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Perhaps she should apply for a job at Goldman Sachs, where greed & dihonesty are rewarded. It would appear she'd pass the basic maths test and seems very astute and working out her finances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save me from the madness! Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Somehow in between all this time in jail and police custody she found time to have 6 children. Amazingly, she must still have parental responsibility for some at least to be claiming the amount she is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 I doubt it. She's been jailed 5 times and convicted 30 times (probably multiple offences rolled into each hearing and a spell in jail every sixth prosecution) during her career. So not a very good thief. If she was raking in £50k a year as claimed, jail time would be an occupational hazard and once you are known to the store detectives it becomes easier to catch you. I would say her jail time for a £2m in salary is an exchange many people would make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macfarlan Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 She is being perfectly rational faced with the choices put in front of her. In that sense you cannot blame her for being human.,...using her brain to work out what is best for her. People do it in all walks of life. There is a significant proportion of the population who would take no other factors into account apart from those incentives....i.e. morals do not come into it. I recall dentists filling children's mouths with mercury when they were paid by the filling and it all stopped when the incentive structure was changed. Bankers is another well known group lambasted on this site for behaving like humans, yet there is no evidence to suggest they are any different to any other group of people. Personally I would give her a Citizens' Income with no housing benefit allowable anywhere in the country. She would then no doubt make the choice to move to a cheaper part of the country if she did not want to work. Until then, I refuse to join in the condemnation for her acting intelligently. Instead, I will save my ire for those who design the incentive structures of this country. In fact I think I would rename Parliament to make it clear to the electorate they set the incentives for society so everyone is fully aware of that and know exactly who to blame. Spot on. What new name would you choose for Parliament? The Church of Money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinAndPlatonic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The Daily Rile..it works too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Peasant. I wouldnt work for a penny less than £136k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The incentive structure should change. Is there any reason why she should be housed in Fulham? Shouldn't she be moved to a perfectly nice, but much cheaper area? +1000. That attitude would make this country a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The incentive structure should change. Is there any reason why she should be housed in Fulham? Shouldn't she be moved to a perfectly nice, but much cheaper area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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