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I moved back up north after a sixteen year absence in 1998. Reasons? Cheaper housing, nicer people, beautiful countryside. Never regretted it.

today I had my first "moment of clarity" where I suddenly thought... "this place is awful"

I'm sure it was an anomaly.

The fact that they say 1989-92 was the last time net migration was flat is interesting. Seems to correlate with something else??

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I moved from Devon to the south east..

Moved back again..

I missed the country side..

I also missed lower wages and more expensive housing..

Oops :)

prettier here though.

Point..

The south east is not the most expensive place to live right now..

but it is where the reoporters live.

least houses sold 2005.. for 30 years..

ouch..

and that came from an ESTATE AGENT

bulls before you start bleating..

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Population fleeing south east, HP related?

BBC

The south east (or surrey in particular) is full of couples coming in the front door from London about to start a family whilst others, whose families have grown up, are leaving through the back door to go to Somerset/dorset/wales etc.

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I moved back up north after a sixteen year absence in 1998. Reasons? Cheaper housing, nicer people, beautiful countryside. Never regretted it.

The north has nicer people. Hmmmm. Perhaps the nice suicide bombers from leeds can spread their own brand of friendship in northern cities in future.

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But we're still in 2005 - where has that figure come from?

It's only 2 weeks until we're in 2006, and house sales tend to fall to nothing around Christmas (no-one wants to be trudging round strangers' houses in the dark and cold), so there won't be a huge difference

between the current number of sales and the final number.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/mortgages/art...65&in_page_id=8

THE UK's biggest chain of estate agents warned today that the number of completed house sales in 2005 is set to be the lowest in 30 years.

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I live in Surrey, was working in London but am moving to Exeter to new job in the January.

Housing prices part of this reason. Small 3-bed family homes start at £350K so no point staying. Don't want to do the train/tube commute anymore.

My sister and her boyfriend left this year for Bristol - same reason.

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It's only 2 weeks until we're in 2006, and house sales tend to fall to nothing around Christmas (no-one wants to be trudging round strangers' houses in the dark and cold), so there won't be a huge difference

between the current number of sales and the final number.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/mortgages/art...65&in_page_id=8

I may be wrong but i read that as Countrywide have had their lowest number of transactions for 30 years rather than the industry as a whole.

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I may be wrong but i read that as Countrywide have had their lowest number of transactions for 30 years rather than the industry as a whole.

Yes you're right and Countrywide specialise in average run of the mill houses in the mid to lower end of the market. As we all know it's only quality that is currently selling.

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Wife and I exited from the Surrey/ Hants area over a year ago, out of the back door to rent in Devon after ripping off, sorry, selling house to someone who departed London.

Agree food, people, beer and countryside wonderful, away from the M25 (makes the A38 and M5 seem like country road) and Heathrow, Exeter and Bristol airports much easier to use.

Amazing how many "friends" we seem to have who visit us from the South East ??

Wife happy working in Tiverton (OK her salary is c**p) and close to one of our daughters, I am just being the perfect househusband, as we all have to get old sometime.

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Well I'm sitting in the office looking down onto a beautiful red-floodlit London Bridge with boats zooming up and down beneath it.

In an hour I'll cycle home to Wandsworth, taking 35 mins door to door.

London is rather pleasant in the winter.

Good luck to country-dwellers, but I like it here.

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Wife and I exited from the Surrey/ Hants area over a year ago, out of the back door to rent in Devon after ripping off, sorry, selling house to someone who departed London.

Agree food, people, beer and countryside wonderful, away from the M25 (makes the A38 and M5 seem like country road) and Heathrow, Exeter and Bristol airports much easier to use.

Amazing how many "friends" we seem to have who visit us from the South East ??

Wife happy working in Tiverton (OK her salary is c**p) and close to one of our daughters, I am just being the perfect househusband, as we all have to get old sometime.

No way.

I'm going to be in Bampton from Jan, working Exeter. Giving up my rented flat in Surrey to stay with my nan, that'll be another £1000 saved each month. SE is a rip off.

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Amazed noone has mentioned the 'white flight' yet...this accounts for the exodus from London anyway.

A LOT of people dont want to start a family home here. 90% of London is very criminalised and the other 10% is either unaffordable for most or unknown to them.

You'd be amazed by the # of people who come to London after graduating, live here for a few years and yet never go anywhere nice in London. They then leave saying the whole place is a dive...it just doesnt suit some I suppose.

No way.

I'm going to be in Bampton from Jan, working Exeter. Giving up my rented flat in Surrey to stay with my nan, that'll be another £1000 saved each month. SE is a rip off.

The SE is a rip-off...yup. Most of us wanting to live in London will have to make sacrifaces (living in flats not houses for 10-20 years), embracing the streetwise cynicism ofcity-life but hey-ho...anywhere else and Id go mad(der).

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I 've been living/working in London ever since I came down here to go to University ....... I'd never live anywhere else !!!! (except maybe New York :))

London is without doubt one of the most exciting places to be in the world and is full of some of the most beautiful women :D

Devon etc is good if your gettin on a bit and are aiming to retire :)

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London is without doubt one of the most exciting places to be in the world and is full of some of the most beautiful women :D

London simply has more of everything - more of the best stuff, more of the worst.

It's pretty cool if you're young or rich or both. Pretty awful if you're neither.

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Well I'm sitting in the office looking down onto a beautiful red-floodlit London Bridge with boats zooming up and down beneath it.

In an hour I'll cycle home to Wandsworth, taking 35 mins door to door.

London is rather pleasant in the winter.

Good luck to country-dwellers, but I like it here

sounds really nice. very christmassy. you just need some snow to finish off the scene.

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Amazed noone has mentioned the 'white flight' yet...this accounts for the exodus from London anyway.

Real Cockneys now live in Essex.

A LOT of people dont want to start a family home here. 90% of London is very criminalised and the other 10% is either unaffordable for most or unknown to them.

There are still white middle class families in outer London such as Kingston, Havering, and Bromley but they are almost nonexistant in the London postal area. Ethnics are gradually colonising outer London and appear to be taking over Hounslow, Harrow and Croydon.

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Real Cockneys now live in Essex.

There are still white middle class families in outer London such as Kingston, Havering, and Bromley but they are almost nonexistant in the London postal area. Ethnics are gradually colonising outer London and appear to be taking over Hounslow, Harrow and Croydon.

What rubbish - Wandsworth is heaving with white middle class families, as are huge swathes of North and West London.

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We are thinking of moving to the Westcountry post-crash. Sadly housing is very expensive there too, but if we did that we could buy our 'medium-long term' home and be happy with it, while in the London area we're always going to be looking at cramped dirty holes in shabby backstreets.

Moreover, when I in the Westcountry visiting my parents I just thought:

'I'd forgotten how great this area is - the scummy London fringe is such a dump I have no idea why we're putting up with it'.

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Before everyone rushes to the greener grass somewhere else, remember that places are what you make of them, what you do and who you know.

Is it just me who find people who spout pompous drivel annoying. By the way, don't forget to check the gas is off when you go to bed.

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