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First They Came For Your Sugar..

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Now they are coming for your bacon and sausages ! (and red meat generally really).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3285490/Bacon-burgers-sausages-cancer-risk-say-world-health-chiefs-Processed-meats-added-list-substances-likely-cause-disease-alongside-cigarettes-asbestos.html

Apologies for the DM link ;)

Yep, according the DMs interpretation of a statement by the world health organisation bacon is as bad as cigarettes. It's official.

It seems I may have to ditch my Saturday morning fry up with cancer causing bacon and diabetes inducing baked beans in favour of a more healthy breakfast of a glass of water and a packet of Marlboro Reds..

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Now they are coming for your bacon and sausages ! (and red meat generally really).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3285490/Bacon-burgers-sausages-cancer-risk-say-world-health-chiefs-Processed-meats-added-list-substances-likely-cause-disease-alongside-cigarettes-asbestos.html

Apologies for the DM link ;)

Yep, according the DMs interpretation of a statement by the world health organisation bacon is as bad as cigarettes. It's official.

It seems I may have to ditch my Saturday morning fry up with cancer causing bacon and diabetes inducing baked beans in favour of a more healthy breakfast of a glass of water and a packet of Marlboro Reds..

There's a story that Hitler wanted to make Germany vegetarian, but he backed off feeling it was a step too far.

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What a load of tripe! Obviously if you eat nothing but salami, you will have bad guts.

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Meat is politically incorrect. It's seen as a social justice issue. There's not enough meat to go around, if the poor can't have it then nobody should have it. They want us all eating grains.

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From popbitch:
>> Sugar and rice <<

...and all things nice

TV chef Jamie Oliver spoke
to a parliamentary committee
this week about his campaign
for a sugar tax.

They should take his advice.
If anyone knows how to skim
a bit of cash off the back
of sugar it's him. His 2013
TV series was sponsored by
Uncle Ben's – a brand that
belongs to Mars Inc, the
food giant most famous for
Mars, Snickers, Bounty,
Skittles, M&Ms...

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I remember some professor on C4 news several years ago, having just gone through all the available studies on Bacon and saying there is a link between Bacon and cancer. Something to do with the way it is processed smoked etc.

It was enough for me to cut right back on it to once a month tops.

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There's a link between everything and cancer. Just do the obvious and ignore them, eat what you want without stuffing yourself with vast amounts of the same thing and you'll probably be fine. You may have a better chance of avoiding cancer if you pay attention to all this stuff but it probably won't be a life worth living.

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I prefer pancetta and lardons to bacon - so I will be fine.

Tennents lager is also known to be a natural killer of cancer cells as well - so double sorted.

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I heard recently that neither meat nor carbs/sugar are that harmful per se, but form a lethal combination when mixed. Humans were naturally hunters or gatherers but rarely in combo. depending on geographical location. I feel fine as a virtual vegetarian and carb fan, just as some doing the Atkins thing will for the same reason.

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I have been watching the SUGAR ETF for the past year as it has plunged in price. I decided to buy some if it got to about 10 bucks... then, in recent weeks, we bagan to get all these sugar stories in the press and I began to think that there was no future in sugar as it looks like there are moves to limit its use.

Had a look at the SUGAR ETF yesterday and it is now about 15 bucks - about a 50% rise in a matter of weeks.

Feck! :D

Perhaps the banksters have been behind these sugar stories in the Express and Mail? :D

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Joking aside, there is reputable science to suggest that processed meat is bad for you, red meat is bad for you, refined sugar is bad for you.

The longest lived populations in the world all eat little or no meat, and lots of vegetables.

Just look around you when you're in public, most people are fat to some degree. But the problem is that our past-times are getting drunk and eating junk food. It's so deeply entrenched in the nation's psyche that it would take quite a lot of time to change, and there's too much money to be made feeding people junk.

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Much like the EU subsidizing tobacco farmers to keep the price of tobacco low (and then taxing consumers to keep it high) so the EU also subsidizes the production of sugar...their biggest single beneficiary argi-industry, actually.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/387c030c-57a9-11df-855b-00144feab49a.html#axzz3pO5fYxt9

Same old EU. Dole out money to farmers to buy votes from powerful landowners and producers courtesy of the taxpayer. Then screw the taxpaying customer again by charging them a 'sugar tax'

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Joking aside, there is reputable science to suggest that processed meat is bad for you, red meat is bad for you, refined sugar is bad for you.

The longest lived populations in the world all eat little or no meat, and lots of vegetables.

Just look around you when you're in public, most people are fat to some degree. But the problem is that our past-times are getting drunk and eating junk food. It's so deeply entrenched in the nation's psyche that it would take quite a lot of time to change, and there's too much money to be made feeding people junk.

As someone who eats quite a bit of sugar I would be interested (obviously) in what it is actually doing to me. It's not excessive, I drink unsweetened drinks, eat unsweetened porridge etc. but it's my poison of choice over fat. I'm far from being diabetic with consistent blood sugar, I have about 11% body fat, low blood pressure.

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Pretty soon we'll be hanging around on industrial estates after dark...strange women will sidle up to us and ask..."You looking for some sugar?" :unsure:

They may take our lives...but they will never take my fugging Bacon.

P

Well said Rabbi! :(:P

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Meat is politically incorrect. It's seen as a social justice issue. There's not enough meat to go around, if the poor can't have it then nobody should have it. They want us all eating grains.

There is a protein shortage. There is a huge research program going on right now (closer to commercialisation than you think) looking at using insects in the western European diet as insects convert biomass to protein much more efficiently than cows. It dos make sense, grass is a stupid source of protein really.

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One of the most carcinogenic and corrosive substances known to man is oxygen. In reality we don't get old, we just slowly oxidise.

I don't see anyone campaigning for the immediate cessation of breathing. Lest we get cancer.

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Had a look at the SUGAR ETF yesterday and it is now about 15 bucks - about a 50% rise in a matter of weeks.

Feck! :D

Perhaps the banksters have been behind these sugar stories in the Express and Mail? :D

El Nino effect.

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They have never been able to add VAT to food due to the uproar it would cause.

Looks like they have found a way around it. Expect lots of health taxes on this that and the other in the future.

Reminds me of the environment taxes imposed in the name of (fictitious) global warming.

Clever buggers they are.

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I think the real problem here is the extreme difficultly of doing conclusive research. For something to show up clearly in studies involving random population samples it has to be a very big effect - e.g. smoking causing lung cancer. We've been through saturated fat, red meat, processed meat, trans-fats food colourings, aspartamine, being a bit overweight, sitting down too much and all sorts of other things apparently killing us but the evidence is always in reality somewhat inconclusive because the signal is mixed in with so much noise.

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Aren't we supposed to eat 7 portions of vegetables a day? I don't think that leaves much room for anything else.

It'll give your bog some exercise! :unsure:

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