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Angela Rippon getting very very worked up at Food Standards Agency for not dealing with the rogue restaurants not publishing Food Allergy info, specially peanut allergy, because people are dying...peanuts are very dangerous she said.

Doing a little research reveals that 0.6 to 1 % of the UK population have any allergy to nuts as a group, peanuts plus tree nuts.

Of these, 90% have a very mild reaction.

so thats 1 in a thousand that have a severe reaction..these people know they have it and carry their meds.

BUT, it seems that these figures are so high because the Government advice in the late 1990s was to not give nuts or peanuts to kids...this advice was withdrawn in 2008 because the not giving these foods to babies is the CAUSE of those in risk groups developing the full allergy.

Today, this advice is not given...give your babies and toddlers peanuts and nuts suitably prepared.

Whilst I think people selling food should be aware whats in their product, including potential allergens, I think that tearing a strip of a TV spokesman is going a bit far, specially when people actually keeling over in restaurants is very rare and makes headline local news.

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Classic example of people crusading on issues they have no personal experience of and no involvement with. Anybody with a serious allergy will do everything they can to avoid the situation, they will not for example trust a small sub heading on a Beefeater menu, they will almost totally avoid any restaurant without fully being aware of the standards and risks.

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.....on a plane once. got out a packet of peanuts brought with us to share......lady on the end seat sees us eating peanuts, we had almost finish them and overhear her asking the air hostess for a packet of peanuts to go with her drink.....air hostess says they are unable to sell them on this flight as they have someone on board with a peanut allergy....so she turns around and points at us.....had finished them by then....nobody died. ;)

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As someone who has food allergies, I think it's entirely up to the restaurant to do as they please. It's my responsibility to look after my own health. It takes 2 minutes to call a restaurant and ask if they can accommodate your needs - ok that's a pain in the backside if you just want to walk in off the street, but anyone with genuine food allergies is highly unlikely to want to do that anyway. I've actually gained a lot of respect for the knowledge and expertise of many restaurants and their staff as a result of this.

OTOH, if restaurants want to take the view expressed by TONA below, I say good luck to them. Because if they're publicly admitting that even they don't know or care what's in their food, then they're going to need it to stay solvent :)

If I were running a restaurant, I'd publish the following disclaimer on my menus:

Food may contain nuts or other reactive allergens. Or not. We really don't know, or care. Please dine elsewhere if this is a problem for you. Thanks.

Job done.

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Classic example of people crusading on issues they have no personal experience of and no involvement with. Anybody with a serious allergy will do everything they can to avoid the situation, they will not for example trust a small sub heading on a Beefeater menu, they will almost totally avoid any restaurant without fully being aware of the standards and risks.

So true. I know a chap who genuinely has that nut allergy - he's the least hypochondriac person I know, but I've seen him go red and literally fall down in a faint after eating nuts. So many people today just have a self indulgent, 'look at me' attack of the vapours while fanning their face and saying 'I'm mildly lactose intolerant!!!'

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I have a friend who has a severe shellfish allergy, and was given an epipen type thing as a teenager. Rather than avoiding shellfish, he actively exposes himself to tiny amounts regularly. Starting with just touching his finger to the tiniest spot on a prawns tail, then licking his finger, and progressing up to just licking a prawn. He has not cured it, he certainly cannot eat a whole prawn or anything. He has managed to train his bodies response enough that if he does expose himself accidentally he can just sick it up and drink some water, his lips and tongue swell a bit for a few hours, but it's not life threatening. Not advice, just food for thought.

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If they're not applying them good for them, I'm sick and tired of everything being labelled, recorded, monitored, officialised (if there's such a word) etc.

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If they're not applying them good for them, I'm sick and tired of everything being labelled, recorded, monitored, officialised (if there's such a word) etc.

Saying that, I would like to know the restaurant knows what it is selling...

Then again, how far can they take this, wasnt it a couple of years ago meat was contaminated at source with Horse meat...not that horse meat will kill you, but it meant extra profits for some.

It was the bile and vitriol coming out of Rippons mouth that impressed me most....

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I have a peanut allergy and have to carry an epipen. If you have a peanut allergy you make sure 100% that any food you are going to eat does not have peanuts in it. If you cannot get that guarantee then you don't eat it. I don't need the BBC going on a crusade on my behalf. I have it under control.

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I have a peanut allergy and have to carry an epipen. If you have a peanut allergy you make sure 100% that any food you are going to eat does not have peanuts in it. If you cannot get that guarantee then you don't eat it. I don't need the BBC going on a crusade on my behalf. I have it under control.

Newsflash. Peanuts are not sassenachs!

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I have a friend whose husband died recently on holiday due to a food allergy.

Not in the UK.

It makes me feel very sad.

Angela Rippon will be outraged. I have a friend whose son was blighted by every allergy known to man as a kid...suddenly, when he left home, he was right as rain, ate what he wanted, grew stronger and started a career in medicine.

Maybe he was allergic to his mum.

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The problem is that such a theory could never be openly stated in the mainstream media, even if it could be objectively tested.

What might be more telling, would be a survey of native British women (say, 3rd generation nationalised at least), with or without children, living in areas with a lot of first generation immigration, as to what they think about the effects on things like hospital care, school places etc. I imagine their views would be rather different to childless career women living in Islington or middle aged kind hearted old ladies in Suffolk, who once saw a brown person on a shopping trip to Ipswich in 1993.

In my view the debate needs to move away from race, Islam etc to focus more on the practical problems of mass unlimited immigration into a hugely indebted country with a crumbling economy. Otherwise the left will simply cry 'racist' as usual at any objections.

Aye. It is strange. I am shortsighted. Thus I remember to put on glasses or contacts everyday. I dont expect every place I frequent during the day to have a courtesy pair just incase I forget to bring them or decide I can't be bothered.

I would imagine if you have a serious allergy you too have to make allowances .

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Saying that, I would like to know the restaurant knows what it is selling...

Then again, how far can they take this, wasnt it a couple of years ago meat was contaminated at source with Horse meat...not that horse meat will kill you, but it meant extra profits for some.

It was the bile and vitriol coming out of Rippons mouth that impressed me most....

I expect them to know up to a point but not necessarily every single detail unless they're making everything themselves from basic ingredients.

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Angela Rippon will be outraged. I have a friend whose son was blighted by every allergy known to man as a kid...suddenly, when he left home, he was right as rain, ate what he wanted, grew stronger and started a career in medicine.

Maybe he was allergic to his mum.

One of my son's primary school teachers was always ill with allergies until she kicked her husband out. Sorted.

:)

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I expect them to know up to a point but not necessarily every single detail unless they're making everything themselves from basic ingredients.

Some restaurants have a full list of ingredients for all their meals in a big book. You feel like a right pain in the **** asking for it though.

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One of my son's primary school teachers was always ill with allergies until she kicked her husband out. Sorted.

:)

Was she allergic to making an effort ?

:D

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Aye. It is strange. I am shortsighted. Thus I remember to put on glasses or contacts everyday. I dont expect every place I frequent during the day to have a courtesy pair just incase I forget to bring them or decide I can't be bothered.

I would imagine if you have a serious allergy you too have to make allowances .

Funny.

I think !!

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I am allergic to something, but I don't know what.

After eating, on two occasions, I came out in hives, and my skin felt it was burning. I had to sit in a cold bath for an hour or two to alleviate the pain. Then they disappeared as quickly as they came.

Whatever it is, it must be a very rare ingredient.

Not worth taking tests to try and find out what it is.

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I am allergic to something, but I don't know what.

After eating, on two occasions, I came out in hives, and my skin felt it was burning. I had to sit in a cold bath for an hour or two to alleviate the pain. Then they disappeared as quickly as they came.

Whatever it is, it must be a very rare ingredient.

Not worth taking tests to try and find out what it is.

Are you sure you weren't poisoned by your "friends", like the Romans, or in Game of Thrones? :blink:

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I don't have friends.

You are one of the Lanisters then! Probably the one with the imaginary uncle. :blink::o

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