richc Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Is that the speculative view? I got 0.01% East Asian which I just assumed was noise. I'm on a 23andme facebook group, which seems to be mostly made up of Americans. One of the interesting things (well, to me anyway) is that every now and again an American will post their results and they will be significantly more British/Irish than I am. Often their recent ancestors will be from from Newfoundland or somewhere similar and they were entirely entirely of Scottish origin dating back 200 years or something like that. But I can recall one New Englander, some of whose ancestors went back to the sort of Mayflower era, and she was much more British/Irish than me. That was a bit of a surprise, that so many Americans have retained a fairly exclusive ethnicity over so much time. I'm an American and I'm more British than you (according to 23andMe). Prior to the 1970s, the whole american-melting-pot, land-of-immigrants story was a myth. I like doing genealogy research and much of the family history that I've found goes back to the late 17th or early 18th century when almost the only migrants to America were British/Irish (or black slaves). Outside of a few areas, that was the normal profile for most Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovinedealer Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm an American and I'm more British than you (according to 23andMe). Prior to the 1970s, the whole american-melting-pot, land-of-immigrants story was a myth. I like doing genealogy research and much of the family history that I've found goes back to the late 17th or early 18th century when almost the only migrants to America were British/Irish (or black slaves). Outside of a few areas, that was the normal profile for most Americans. Yeap sounds about right. Surprising how certain sections of society are trying to rewrite recorded history to fit their own narrative. I suspect inhabitants in the British Isles pre 1950 are mostly of European stock. (And that's only from judging from old newsreel film - no research done.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugger BTL Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I've a relative who did it, all very interesting. Results were pretty much as expected. I don't know that I'd pony up for it myself, it's a very broad brush as I understand it, but was all good fun. She got an offer and paid I think £70, and probably the family as a whole got seventy quid's worth of interest out of it. I recommend trying to get someone else in the family to pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall of the Nine Hostages Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm an American and I'm more British than you (according to 23andMe). Prior to the 1970s, the whole american-melting-pot, land-of-immigrants story was a myth. I like doing genealogy research and much of the family history that I've found goes back to the late 17th or early 18th century when almost the only migrants to America were British/Irish (or black slaves). Outside of a few areas, that was the normal profile for most Americans. Hahaha! There we are then, theres another one! The melting post thing does seem to be a myth. Similarly, the number of Americans with sub-saharan or native-american ancestry seems to be a an awful lot less than is often assumed - they may even be just a tiny minority. There has been some interesting books on the topic of varying cultures and ancestry in the USA which are on my hit to list read some time. I saw this the other day, which graphs British ancestry in the USA, which I thought was pretty interesting: https://randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2014/12/08/some-visualizations-of-ancestry-coms-genetic-data/ As I said in my first post on this thread, as far as I am aware, nearly all my ancestors were from Eastern England, so I guess the the large proportion of Scandinavian, French/German and general North West European is typical for East England because of the Saxons and Vikings and so on. I do have one foreign ancestor, who was a scandinavian, but as he was one of 256 ancestors of a similar distance, he can't possibly be responsible for the full 8.5% (or whatever it is) of Scandinavian ancestry 23andme say I have. I would have thought I am typical for Eastern England, but I might not be. Maybe a substantial proportion of American's of British ancestry came from Western England, Wales, Scotland and of course Northern Ireland. Or maybe, when an American does these test and states they have x percent French/German, it is assumed, by me as well, that their ancestors were actually French or Germans, rather than just being from Yorkshire or Norfolk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 On a more serious note (than my earlier posts) I took up geneaolgy about 26 years ago (pre WWW) when my Dad died, and I realised I needed to gather as much info while others in his generation still lived. It was a good decision, and I recommend everyone talk to their elders, and note down what info you can while you still can. My goodness, my words yesterday were rather prescient. My Mum died early this morning. She had had Alzheimers for many years so I feel I lost her a long time ago. Nonetheless, I am glad I got to know her, and her life story, when I had the chance. She was 93, so she had a good long life. That knowledge sort of keeps her alive for me in a way. One day I hope I will be able to tell my grandchildren all about her. Seriously, if you have elderly relatives, talk to them, get to know about their history, their lives. While you still can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 My goodness, my words yesterday were rather prescient. My Mum died early this morning. She had had Alzheimers for many years so I feel I lost her a long time ago. Nonetheless, I am glad I got to know her, and her life story, when I had the chance. She was 93, so she had a good long life. Sorry to hear that old chap. I don't think my mum is far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Commiserations, Happy Renting. It's always sad, whatever the circs. Alzheimer's is vile and you're right - if they have it for long enough you lose the person long before they die. Mine had it for at least 12 years - she was 97 when she died in July. There are still things I wish I'd asked her while she was still compos mentis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall of the Nine Hostages Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 My goodness, my words yesterday were rather prescient. My Mum died early this morning. She had had Alzheimers for many years so I feel I lost her a long time ago. Nonetheless, I am glad I got to know her, and her life story, when I had the chance. She was 93, so she had a good long life. That knowledge sort of keeps her alive for me in a way. One day I hope I will be able to tell my grandchildren all about her. Seriously, if you have elderly relatives, talk to them, get to know about their history, their lives. While you still can. 'm really sorry to hear that. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Commiserations, Happy Renting. It's always sad, whatever the circs. Alzheimer's is vile and you're right - if they have it for long enough you lose the person long before they die. Mine had it for at least 12 years - she was 97 when she died in July. There are still things I wish I'd asked her while she was still compos mentis. I can imagine a lot of people have that thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Thanks for the condolences - but remember this ain't mumsnet . I took the opportunity to talk to her when I had the chance, and even made some audio tapes some years back. Sadly, I only recently discovered that some Victorian ancestors lived on a spot about 30 metres from what was later Granada TV's outdoor Coronation Street set in Manchester. She'd have been chuffed.had she been able to understand! She lived to see her grandchildren grow up, which was a good thing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 My goodness, my words yesterday were rather prescient. My Mum died early this morning. She had had Alzheimers for many years so I feel I lost her a long time ago. Nonetheless, I am glad I got to know her, and her life story, when I had the chance. She was 93, so she had a good long life. That knowledge sort of keeps her alive for me in a way. One day I hope I will be able to tell my grandchildren all about her. Seriously, if you have elderly relatives, talk to them, get to know about their history, their lives. While you still can. Always sad when you lose a loving parent, a beginning and an end to everything both good and bad. .....I lost my much loved dad yesterday in the early hours of yesterday morning died peacefully in his sleep....terminal illness but he got the chance to say his goodbyes, reminisce past memories then within the week deteriorated and faded away peacefully without any pain....God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Sorry to hear that Winkie. Do you fancy moving into an orphanage with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Sorry to hear that Winkie. Do you fancy moving into an orphanage with me? Yep, the generations have all of a sudden shifted a notch...top of the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yep, the generations have all of a sudden shifted a notch...top of the morning. i have been an old fart for years already, according to my daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Always sad when you lose a loving parent, a beginning and an end to everything both good and bad. .....I lost my much loved dad yesterday in the early hours of yesterday morning died peacefully in his sleep....terminal illness but he got the chance to say his goodbyes, reminisce past memories then within the week deteriorated and faded away peacefully without any pain....God bless. So sorry to hear that, Winkie. Very glad it was peaceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 So sorry to hear that, Winkie. Very glad it was peaceful. Thank you, he looked very peaceful, I suppose it is the little things that will make us aware he is no longer with us, like realising he will never answer his mobile phone ever again.......such is life....and death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedin Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Being ripped off is not the end of the world, I'd be more concerned about how these corporations might use the data. It's very sensitive, personal information. I've little to no understanding of understanding of genetics though so have no idea how useful the data could be to for example a health insurance company. I mean it's not a full sequence, no where near.it.but we are nearing the point where sequencing an entire human genome is getting cheap. I think it costs a little under 10k dollars at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedin Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Sorry to hear about your loss winkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugger BTL Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Always sad when you lose a loving parent, a beginning and an end to everything both good and bad. .....I lost my much loved dad yesterday in the early hours of yesterday morning died peacefully in his sleep....terminal illness but he got the chance to say his goodbyes, reminisce past memories then within the week deteriorated and faded away peacefully without any pain....God bless. That sounds like the sort of death many of us would choose if we could. I hope that will give you comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'm quite tempted to have my own DNA analysed now. I'm not in the slightest bit worried about finding out that I'm adopted / the milkman's son, because I must have got the baldness / tightness from my mum, and the sticky-out ears / ginger beard / general twattishness from my dad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Posted that having just read the first page, read the whole thread now. Sorry to hear about your bereavements Winkie and HR. My Grandad died in 2011 when my sister-in-law was pregnant with his first great-grandchild, but by that point his previously very sharp mind had gone completely . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedin Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I'm quite tempted to have my own DNA analysed now. I'm not in the slightest bit worried about finding out that I'm adopted / the milkman's son, because I must have got the baldness / tightness from my mum, and the sticky-out ears / ginger beard / general twattishness from my dad! I would still urge caution about what company you use as your genetic information is obviously not just about you but your relatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_northshore_* Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 My goodness, my words yesterday were rather prescient. My Mum died early this morning. She had had Alzheimers for many years so I feel I lost her a long time ago. Nonetheless, I am glad I got to know her, and her life story, when I had the chance. She was 93, so she had a good long life. That knowledge sort of keeps her alive for me in a way. One day I hope I will be able to tell my grandchildren all about her. Seriously, if you have elderly relatives, talk to them, get to know about their history, their lives. While you still can. If you're into genealogy maybe put together a family website with a tree, photos, places. background etc. Someone on one side of my family has done that, going back to 1700s. I won't post link as personal (and in dutch) but nice to have bank of info and historical references, and I know others in the family think the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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