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Almost every day there is a new "immigrants are to blame for/should adapt to x" thread on this HOUSE PRICE CRASH forum. Why is this?

As an aside, I think that the moderator should move any thread containing racist language to a part of the forum marked "Racism". We can uphold free speech and not censor any comments, but we can keep the main part of this forum to economic assessments and observations, and dump the nasty xenophobia somewhere else.

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I am not racist at all but if you dont think several hundred thousand immigrants don't have a massive effect on our housing/welfare state/health/economy you are burying your head in the sand . You also mention adapting to X . I have very strong views of this. When I see that a county council bans pictures or images of a pig so they do not offend another religion .... and they will not fly the union jack in case it causes offence ........well what about my freedom . Is this the way our country is going???

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When I see that a county council bans pictures or images of a pig so they do not offend another religion .... and they will not fly the union jack in case it causes offence

I see that as being more a problem with the council :rolleyes:

I don't have a problem with a controlled entry immigration system, nor with sending illegal economic refugees back to the country from which they gained entry to the UK, I hasten to add.

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Almost every day there is a new "immigrants are to blame for/should adapt to x" thread on this HOUSE PRICE CRASH forum. Why is this?

As an aside, I think that the moderator should move any thread containing racist language to a part of the forum marked "Racism". We can uphold free speech and not censor any comments, but we can keep the main part of this forum to economic assessments and observations, and dump the nasty xenophobia somewhere else.

"Immigrants" aren't a race Jonlar that's a definition of individuals "who come as a permanent resident to a country other than one's native land". No mention of race colour creed religion or sexual orientation or lack of orientation disability etc etc

Someone's PC radar is on autoblip!

The Fox

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Almost every day there is a new "immigrants are to blame for/should adapt to x" thread on this HOUSE PRICE CRASH forum. Why is this?

AWOOOOOOGA!!!!!!

BEWARE FOLKS THERE'S A TROLL ABOUT................

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There's very little racism on this forum (and I've been accused of it for saying I would vote BNP).

If you want to be shocked by real racism go here

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Racism, Why are there so many racist threads here?

Quite simply because many of the contributors are Daily Mail reading morons who believe everything they read.

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Whats this doing on this forum, should it not be moved on.

Please Send this to all your friends

I couldn’t have written it better myself!!

After many cities not wanting to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights.

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let and let a Muslim women have her picture on her driver’s license with her face covered.

After hearing of a Primary school in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football Shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Ham etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others.

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen in a British newspaper.

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IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITON’S, must ADAPT. Take it OR Leave it.

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits. However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the politically correct” crowd begin complaining about the possibility that over patriotism is offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of London being a multicultural community has been served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language. “In god We Trust”, is our National Motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, and political slogan.

We adopted this motto because Christian men and women on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home. Because God is part of our culture. If St George’s cross offends you, or you don’t like “A Fair Go”, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life. I highly encourage you to take advantage of the other great British freedom,

“ THE RIGHT TO LEAVE ”. If you aren’t happy here, then go back from whence you came; We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Pretty easy really, when you think about it,

I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.

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After many cities not wanting to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights.

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let and let a Muslim women have her picture on her driver’s license with her face covered.

After hearing of a Primary school in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football Shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Ham etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others.

Invention.

Invention.

Invention.

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen in a British newspaper.

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IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITON’S, must ADAPT. Take it OR Leave it.

And which fascist 'newspaper' was that in, the Daily Mail or The Express?

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Believe it or not, I believe the majority of people in this country would prefer to perhaps hurt a couple of individuals feelings than let our national identity be ruined, our traditions walked over and allow this nation to be taken advantage of. I do detest the articles in the Mail, less so the Express, purely for their tabloid style and lacking facts. But then again, the guardian and the socialist "mirror" make me feel equally as repulsed for pandering the socialist viewpoints at all cost.

Then again, the minority who get offended (leftie tree huggers in the main) most definately shout the loudest and how progressive (read democratic) is that?!!? Since when should the minority hold the greatest rights?

I am all for immigration, it is a must for the well-being of our nation. I dont pander to multiculti though, nor do I believe in helping those who will bring trouble to this country as a result of their own corrupt ways (rather leave them to their own nations more backward but effective Law services) I have many ethnic freinds who consider themselves "British", many proud of our nations history (including the British Empire).

Then again, Pinko softie sissies will always go along with their "ooh, cant say anything that offends anyone/ causes suffering, even if it causes HUGE issues in our own nation" views... These people make me sick. And there seems to be lots of THOSE people on this site as well.

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"Almost every day there is a new "immigrants are to blame for/should adapt to x" thread on this HOUSE PRICE CRASH forum. Why is this?"

Because we have an angry disenfranchised group of people here and some of them want a target.

Immigrants / working women / BTLers / Kirsty etc all get the blame put on their shoulders by various posters. Low interest rates sparking a bubble mentality in perfectly decent people is rather too boring an explanation.

I fully understand the anger, but it's dangerous... Here's an extreme example... a German lady of my Grandmother's generation once tried to justify the Holocaust to my Grandmother by explaining that during the 30s the Jews had held too much of Germany's wealth because they owned so much property.

Like the idea of a racist subforum, down with the trolls' one!

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IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITON’S, must ADAPT. Take it OR Leave it.

BRITONS must learn the correct use of the apostrophe in their native language.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language.

Lebanese is not a language, they speak Arabic and French in Lebanon.

“In god We Trust”, is our National Motto.

Not it's not. It's the US national motto. Most of our nation mottos are in Latin or French.

We adopted this motto because Christian men and women on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.

This nation was not "founded" at any point in its history. It slowly evolved. You have no documentation.

I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.

If you pass it to your friends they will think you are a moron. If you pass it to your enemies they willlaugh at you.

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Low interest rates sparking a bubble mentality in perfectly decent people is rather too boring an explanation.

Exactly ER

All the negative blame this blame that is total crap, the banks know that if they increase the flow of money on low rates it will drive asset prices up, and in turn people become more indebted to them And banks then reap the rewards of the public puting up their own housing costs because they are falling over each other to climb aboard the property gravy train.

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deano - are you really so stupid that you can't see at a glance that the letter you quote was written by an American, for all the reasons, and more, given by El Pirata and patprimer74.

"In God we trust is our national Motto." I find it astonishing that anyone who claims to love Britain (or even have a scant regard for it) could repeat this.

You complete and utter idiot.

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All the negative blame this blame that is total crap,

You really don't read your own posts, do you?

the banks know that if they increase the flow of money on low rates it will drive asset prices up, and in turn people become more indebted to them And banks then reap the rewards of the public puting up their own housing costs because they are falling over each other to climb aboard the property gravy train.

So do we blame some innocent parties, or don't we?

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You really don't read your own posts, do you?

Neither do you apparently, you start off making an personal observation which then turns into a question ...all in one sentance

So do we blame some innocent parties, or don't we?

I suggest you ask "we" for that answer...........................go away I tire of your inane comments :ph34r:

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deano - are you really so stupid that you can't see at a glance that the letter you quote was written by an American, for all the reasons, and more, given by El Pirata and patprimer74.

"In God we trust is our national Motto." I find it astonishing that anyone who claims to love Britain (or even have a scant regard for it) could repeat this.

You complete and utter idiot.

I agree that the letter appears to have been written by a Yank originally. I'm not aware that we have a "National Motto" I guess "God and my right" would come the closest.

Still I agree with the sentiment.

I suspect housing bears may have a more cautious view on immigration as we can see the negative side of uncontrolled immigration and the inflationary pressure it has on house prices.

My view is simple. This is OUR land... why should we accept the overspill of Pakistan, Nigeria or Albania?

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Racism? Apart from the usual suspects I dont think HPC is overflowing with racist sentiment. As was pointed out earlier, we have an immigration policy with no upper limit. The national infastructure is stretched enough already. Regardless of the economic benefits bring to the country ( and there are benefits ), its downright stupid to continue with an opendoor policy without the systems to deal with more incomers. Frankly though, whoever said policy was for the benefit of UK citizens, or existing immigrants for that matter?

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It seems to me that the powers that be are only concerned about the 'continuing' profits of UK Plc. The fortunes of the bulk of the drones that constitute the population are irrelevant in the eyes of their masters. It's strange that for a so-called wealthy nation many individuals are drowning in debt and seem in general to be unhappy.

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In many ways this boom is built on mass immigration, this has been a source of great deceit in terms of public policy, as we saw over varoius scandals with ministers forced to resign when caught in lies about its scale.

In macro economics there are three major forces in the labour market which effect labour supply, and thus the wages paid to workers.

(1) The Labour particpation rate (the trend since the 1950's from 34% to 60% of women joining the workforce for example, which leads to greater producitvity for the same population and hence higher pay).

(2) The hours worked.

(3) Immigration, which lead to declining wages for workers, because of greater supply.

The exception to (3) is of course, value added immigration, in which a few highly skilled additions to the labour force, lead to gains in technology, without any displacement or lower wages for existing workers. THis form of immigration is vital in all economies.

This is very diffrent from keeping real wages from rising with mass immigration.

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Racism, Why are there so many racist threads here

Because if you say anything about immigrants or other cultures the left-wing scroungers come out and call you a racist even if what you are saying is true.

Blacks are good at basketball, boxing, dancing, singing

This is OK

Blacks are more likely to mug you and to be carrying guns

This is bad

Blacks and whites get on together in general (I thinks) but it’s stupid to pretend we are the same and it's human nature to generalise, that why we are so successful and no PC crap is going to change that.

(3) Immigration, which lead to declining wages for workers, because of greater supply.

And that why Blair & Co loves em

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Actually it was the Anglo-Saxons under the rule of Alfred the Great who first formed the nation state of England. Moving millions of commonwealth immigrants to Britain strengthens trading and cultural ties, this tactic was also carried out when millions of white British left Britain to go to Australia in order to strengthen association with this country. Much the same as Stalin planted many Russians into Latvia, Estonia and the rest of the Baltic states to strengthen Russian control of the Soviet Union.

The U.K has a few million black and Asian people but who are British subjects from countries the British colonised and still wields influence in without the need for military presence. Although the U.K has seen an increase in Black and Asian British people for obvious reasons they will remain a minority in our country. Firstly the country cannot become too divided along lines of 'race' or 'religion' and secondly we could be seen as a threat to our European neighbours or in the worse case taken over by another European power with imperial ambitions. As was nearly the case when Hitler tried to invade and the chilling threat of Soviet invasion that persisted through the cold war until the 90s. Those who believe the world will all melt into one cosmic 'race' or 'religion' through intermarriage obviously haven't spent their holidays in Belfast, Jerusalem or the former Yugoslavia. Unfortunately too many people in Britain holiday in Southern Spain and read immigration headlines from tabloids!

While Britain benefits from immigration by taking in the surplus Labour from other countries for our industries. I cannot see business leaders being too keen to destabilise the country and see their intrests taken over in one way or another or foreign business leaders for that matter!

Blacks, whites and other races are diferent types of humans and morally should be treated in an egalitarian manner! People are diverse though and you only need to see the racial makeup of African runners and European swimmers to see that physical differences do exist. But there are more things wich are similar and which unite us!

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