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Tom Crawford has finally had "his" house reposessed today, Police formed a 200m ring of steel around the property to keep angry "people shouldn't have to pay their debts" protesters at bay.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tom-crawford-angry-protesters-clash-5991478

There were angry scenes and three were arrested as hundreds of protesters flooded a suburban street in a vain attempt to prevent a cancer patient being evicted from his home by the bank.

Tom Crawford, 64, had twice stopped bailiffs from kicking him out of his Nottinghamshire house with the help of hundreds of supporters.

But today police formed a 'ring of steel' outside his bungalow, preventing his helpers from coming to his aid.

Edited by workingpoor

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Why are 'decent' people trying to impose mob rule in the uk?

Why don't they all give him £100 if they are that worried about it?

This county is going down the drain. :(

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Why are 'decent' people trying to impose mob rule in the uk?

Why don't they all give him £100 if they are that worried about it?

This county is going down the drain. :(

Same reason a harmless retired Nobel prize winning professor lost his academic position for a fairly innocuous misguided remark

False equivalence of opinions.

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One of Tom's supporters, Bob Porter, 40, of Hockley, Nottinghamshire said: "We're here to protest against absolute injustice at the banking system, which is allowed to ride roughshod over the common man on his own land.

Errr... I think you find that if you don't keep up your mortgage payments, it's the banks land! Yes, I know the full story about some disputed payments but he lost the court case (didn't he also fail an appeal?) so he should have paid up or moved on. This sense of entitlement from these 'homeowners' is ridiculous!

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Didn't he claim in court that he shouldn't have to pay the debt back because the money the bank lent him didn't actually exist in physical terms or something like that?

Freeman of the land etc

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Didn't he claim in court that he shouldn't have to pay the debt back because the money the bank lent him didn't actually exist in physical terms or something like that?

Freeman of the land etc

So he was saying that no one should pay any debts because money isn't real!

Make you wonder why did he borrowed it in the first place if that is what he thought! :P

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Didn't he claim in court that he shouldn't have to pay the debt back because the money the bank lent him didn't actually exist in physical terms or something like that?

Freeman of the land etc

So he wouldn't mind letting other people have it then

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It's heartwarming to see fiscal ignorance hasn't won in this case.

Hopefully we can see a few more cases like this.

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How come he hasn't paid off his mortgage? He's had years to pay off £43k. What was he doing before he got ill?

Why dont we do a crowdfunding thing and just give him the cash. He obviously deserves it.

If we all did that for each other we'd all be rich :rolleyes:

Edited by TheCountOfNowhere

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Wow, a cancer patient who doesnt have cancer....nothing like spicing up a headline to inflame the Social Justice Warriors.

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a ring of steel

From the photos the mirror must mean a cordon.

A ring of steel usually means something like tanks and that's usually reserved for the "city" and airports etc. There are no tanks in evidence in the photos.

Edited by billybong

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No doubt a costly police operation to keep the peace, but worth it.

Tells everyone else that there is no kissing away mortgage debts.

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So he was saying that no one should pay any debts because money isn't real!

Make you wonder why did he borrowed it in the first place if that is what he thought! :P

if he would have said that the money in question is not legal currency,he would probably got away with it.

this country,like the US, has a legal definition of what our currency is, and what it is to be weighted against.

I can't wait for the US bank runs, when people demand to be paid in US dollars,rather than federal reserve notes.

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You can read a copy of the judgement here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6i6ep8comfyn8y/Copyof2PB03485BradfordBingleyvCrawfordJudgmentP.docRecovered.docx?dl=0

Relevant historical detail:

1. Since the hearing before me on 2nd February 2015 more effort has gone into ascertaining the history of this mortgage. Neither side has filed a witness statement although Bradford & Bingley have produced copies of records which they hold and the result of email enquiries they have made as to the fate of the endowment policy. Mr Crawford has also been in touch with those having information about the life policy (endowment) and has received similar but not identical information. I have allowed considerable latitude in this hearing in an attempt to unearth what has gone wrong. It has emerged that certain key facts are not in dispute and they are as follows.

2. Firstly, in 1988 the Crawfords took out an Endowment mortgage with Bradford & Bingley with the capital advanced being £41,800.

3. Secondly, it has become clear that the endowment policy taken out at the same time as the loan has been surrendered or lapsed. Either way it is no longer available.

4. Thirdly, following the original mortgage loan of £41,800 the Crawfords took out a second loan in 1989. This was for £5,000 for home improvements and was repayable on a more conventional capital repayment and interest basis. There were thus two different types of mortgage accounts although both were secured against 3 Fearn Chase through the original mortgage deed.

5. Fourthly, the Crawfords were in discussion with Bradford & Bingley about the lack of an endowment policy in 1999.

6. Fifthly, in 1999 Bradford & Bingley offered to move the Crawfords to a repayment mortgage but the Crawfords refused. This is important because Mr Crawford’s case has been that Bradford & Bingley changed his mortgage to repayment without his agreement. Today the position has been clarified. It is clear that Bradford & Bingley offered to convert the mortgage to repayment and it is agreed that Mr Crawford refused this. However Bradford & Bingley did not unilaterally change the type of mortgage the Crawfords had. I observe that in many ways the refusal by Mr Crawford to take up a repayment mortgage has been the source of this problem.

7. Sixthly, when Bradford & Bingley commenced possession proceedings in August 2012 the Crawfords were in arrears not having made any mortgage payment for some (at least three) months.

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It was withdrawn from last auction.... Tuesday 3 November 2015

http://www.grahampennyauctions.com/component/propertylab/?task=showproperty&id=7333&perpage=20&start=20&order=&type=forsale&minprice=1&address5=&maxprice=&minbeds=&result=1&searchtext=

Two bedroomed detached bungalow in need of major improvement, modernisation and upgrading,

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There's cancer and there's cancer.

Tom Crawford has prostate cancer which responds well to hormone treatments. Take some tablets regularly and you're likely to die with it rather than of it. Side effects of the medication include your willy not working and monitoring at the Doctor's will mean regular fingers up the bum. It's not much fun, but it's not so bad either.

I find it quite distasteful that Tom Crawford and his supporters are using the label "cancer patient" to try to attract sympathy. While there is nothing in those words that is false, it is likely to make people reading the story think that Tom Crawford has a far more serious condition than is the case.

Anyway, it didn't do him any good, did it? The bank still got their house back.

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No doubt a costly police operation to keep the peace, but worth it.

Tells everyone else that there is no kissing away mortgage debts.

Unless you're a bank. Then you can have £370 billion....

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