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What Is Your Definition Of "a Hate Crime"

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It's a piece of Orwellian doublespeak being bandied about very liberally by the British and American media these days

Surely, if someone dislikes someone else so much that they end up murdering them, then surely that murdered person is a victim of some form of hatred? That' s not an unreasonable hypothesis is it?

But in the twisted minds of the BBC and certain American media channels, it's only a "hate crime" if the victim is black or from some other special interest minority group.

Isn't it interesting how brazen and blatant their attempts to re-program the way people think have become?

If you are a Drummer Rigby and you are beheaded in the street by a couple of muslim extremists, you are not the victim of a hate crime?????

That's very very frightening isn't it?

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It's a piece of Orwellian doublespeak

Pretty much this.

It's using the justice system for political and social engineering ends, and has ended up chilling freedom of expression. I'm not sure if that's what was intended but that's certainly how it's panned out.

Reminds me very much of this :- https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cultural_Revolution

The difference is that at present you don't run the risk of being shot for being politically incorrect, merely ostracised. And there's a sizable number of contrarian types who make even being ostracised irrelevant, unless you happen to work in an environment where the powers that be are totally on board with the lynch mobs - like what happened to Tim Hunt, or possibly NASA Dude with the Tasteless Shirt.

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I don't really see the point, an attack is an attack, but the definition seems to be that you are attacked for fitting a certain category rather than for something personal to you.

So Lee Rigby's killing was a hate crime IMO because he was attacked because he was identifiable as a British soldier. If he was beheaded by somebody with a personal grudge against him in particular then it wouldn't be a hate crime.

As per my opening statement, what's the point of it?

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I don't really see the point, an attack is an attack, but the definition seems to be that you are attacked for fitting a certain category rather than for something personal to you.

So Lee Rigby's killing was a hate crime IMO because he was attacked because he was identifiable as a British soldier. If he was beheaded by somebody with a personal grudge against him in particular then it wouldn't be a hate crime.

As per my opening statement, what's the point of it?

Precisely

But it seems the progressive libtards are deliberately creating different levels or classes of the same crime based upon ethnicity or sexual orientation. If a person from a special interest group is the victim of a crime, it is treated differently.

So much for the equality that lefties always spout on about.

It's why I so utterly detest lefties.

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I regard a hate crime as one against another which is based upon a dislike of the person's beliefs, skin colour, lifestyle etc - rather than being committed for some gain, a problem with the individual etc. Hate crime is criminal levels of xenophobia.

Wikipedia seems to broadly agree:

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hate_crime

Rigby was very much the victim of a hate crime in my view although in fairness the UK definition seems to be narrower (but expanding) than this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hate_crime#United_Kingdom

As to why they are treated separately I've no idea. Perhaps it is a way of monitoring problems between particular groups, or ensuring a particular set can be highlighted. By my definition, I have been a victim of a hate crime (on separate occasions) for being white, not white enough and a cyclist.

For me it falls into a similar category as diversity in the workplace. Often the discussion focusses on gender, skin colour or religion (ie blatantly obvious differences)- when diversity should be about much more than that.

I expect the definitions of hate crime to expand.

We do need to step carefully though. Offending someone by challenging their beliefs etc cannot become a crime. I am, for example, regularly offended by the stupidity of many people - but I do not expect them to be prosecuted for the same.

I'm vaguely leftie myself btw.

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They are deliberately introducing more frequent usage of the terms 'extremism' and 'hate crime', while keeping either undefined or very wide definitions.

Eventually, they will use the laws they will put in place to shut down 50% of the internet - leaving only 'approved' content providers to fill the remaining space.

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Both me and an asian bloke were given a load of grief by local lads a good few years ago now.

He was treated to CCTV installed by the police.

I was not.

Apparently me (white) being told 'Go away, you're not from round here" doesn't count as anything bad.

Them saying it to him was bad.


The hate crime is the same IMO. Just not in the eyes of those enforcing the law.

Edited by SarahBell

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Both me and an asian bloke were given a load of grief by local lads a good few years ago now.

He was treated to CCTV installed by the police.

I was not.

Apparently me (white) being told 'Go away, you're not from round here" doesn't count as anything bad.

Them saying it to him was bad.

The hate crime is the same IMO. Just not in the eyes of those enforcing the law.

If you're a white caucasian, christian, heterosexual or just NORMAL. you can't be a victim of a "HATE" crime

It's absolute madness when you think about it

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