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Jeremy Corbyn is now in the running to become the next Labour party leader. He is the most left wing of any of the candidates. Would you consider voting Labour if he was party leader?

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No never but I'm 100% behind his leadership bid. He'll provide balance to the Tories and will render Labour unelectable.

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All I really know about Corbyn is that he seems to have so far avoided the panic virus currently sweeping through the Labour elite. I heard him make the very cogent observation-for example- that Labour lost Scotland not because it was too left wing, but because it was not left wing enough- so the simplistic solution of cloning the Tories come the next election is unlikely to work well north of the border.

If Corbyn could present a genuinely intelligent analysis of what a left wing opposition party in world still dominated by neo liberal groupthink should be attempting to achieve then I might vote for that agenda- but if all he can manage is a left wing diatribe then I probably would not.

The real problem for Labour is that the Neo Liberals have won the battle of ideas- it is their values and their solutions that people feel are the right ones- unless Labour can mount some kind of coherent intellectual challenge to these ideas and values then what are they actually for?

Corbyn at least seems willing to take the time to think about it- the rest are so petrified that all they seem focused on is bending themselves into whatever shape the electorate might currently deem acceptable- not even considering the possibility that after another five years of cuts and who knows what changes in the global outlook their faux Tory credentials might not be the passport to power they currently imagine they will be.

It's a sad and pathetic spectacle seeing the other candidates for Labour leader vying to demonstrate their support for a cap on welfare, for example, not because such a cap is inherently wrong but because leadership is supposed to be about something a bit more substantial than one's ability to adopt the latest political fetish in an attempt to garner support.

Corbyn at least has the integrity to stand apart from this grubby game and attempt to offer some kind of intellectual content- and that alone makes him a bit more interesting than the rest.

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I wouldn't vote labour whichever of the current leadership candidates won

Corbyn, I think he has the clearest 'traditional labour' values of any of the leadership contenders, but I don't think he is a leader that people want to follow

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Jeremy Corbyn... Would you consider voting Labour if he was party leader?

Yes, he has sound values and stands for a fairer balanced society and for the working class (that being all the people that work daily for a living).

But he won't get far in this country of media brain washed 'I'm all right jacks'.

He'll have to re-educate most of the people before they could even attempt to engage in any worth while debate.

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As a member of an affiliated TU, I have a vote in this and yes it will be going to Jeremy. If you listened to the MSM, you'd swear he was to the left of Karl Marx, the reality being he's a social democrat.

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I'm Northern, working class. I should be a tribal Labour voter but Ive never voted for them and doubt I will.

Im not some 'aspirational' voter, not that materialistic.

I think my two defining political infulences are

1) Working in the private sector

2) Having second hand experience of the Cleveland Sex abuse scandal, and seeing labour wimmin in full flight and cover up mode.

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As a member of an affiliated TU, I have a vote in this and yes it will be going to Jeremy. If you listened to the MSM, you'd swear he was to the left of Karl Marx, the reality being he's a social democrat.

Wierdly, I saw that he was backed by Frank Field, who I have a lot of time for.

FF is regarded as being 'well to the right' of Labour. Im not sure. I just think he's not some sort of 'public-sector-is-great' idiot.

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Yes, he has sound values and stands for a fairer balanced society and for the working class (that being all the people that work daily for a living).

But he won't get far in this country of media brain washed 'I'm all right jacks'.

He'll have to re-educate most of the people before they could even attempt to engage in any worth while debate.

There's no such thing as a socialist with sound values

Socialism is a mental disorder practiced and supported by brainwashed idiots

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There's no such thing as a socialist with sound values

Socialism is a mental disorder practiced and supported by brainwashed idiots

And what's your pathological explanation for Capitalism?. I would be much nicer if you could somehow write it with an Eas European Accent

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Field and a number of other Labour MPs have nominated Corbyn in order to get him onto the ballot with the understanding that they won't support his leadership bid. All about having a broad debate rather than a Blairite circle jerk

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And what's your pathological explanation for Capitalism?. I would be much nicer if you could somehow write it with an Eas European Accent

There's no such thing as capitalism anymore. Hasn't been for ages. It began its demise when the European banking scions hijacked America's systems of credit in 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve system. It died for good when the dollar, the global reserve currency, was decoupled from the only tangible asset that reined in government largesse, gold.

There's no such thing as capital. There are insufficient bank deposits upon which to finance investment so banks create the money supply as interest bearing debt from nothing.

Capitalism cannot exist in any meaningful way when the money supply has been privatised.by banks, underwritten by the taxpayers when the bankers' investments go bad. It's a one way bet.

I can't remember any time in my life when a socialist politician proposed changing the monetary system. That's the one thing that would improve life for everyone.

The 5th Plank of the Communist Manifesto is a national central bank. Even Marx understood that the creation of coin and credit had to be centrally controlled by the state.

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And what's your pathological explanation for Capitalism?. I would be much nicer if you could somehow write it with an Eas European Accent

Capitalism is fixable by socialising the rents of the land. This would put an end to parasitic rentierism where the land owners get a free ride without having contributed to the economy or society, other than monopolising a natural resource that we all require.

Also socialising the banking system and money supply and instituting 'sound money' would be a benefit too.

Never going to happen in a million years though, as too many benefit from 'crooked capitalism.' Can't have an economy which is fair and everyone gains!

Idea of Labour grappling with these idea's is unthinkable.

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I watched the hustings and sure Corbyn comes across well, as indeed did Liz Kendall.

I'd put my politics at about 10% to the left of average. So if I vote for Labour they get 40% of the popular vote. I have voted for Labour in the past.

Corbyn might command 25% of the country, Burnham 30%, Cooper 35%, Kendall 45%.

So the at least the three sensible options (excluding Corbyn) will do better than that complete twit Miliband. Burnham's a bit of an idiot, he speaks in nonsense political language that nobody really understands a bit like the Milibot really, just complete unintelligible twaddle from his flat Northern vowels, I guess the women like his eyes and at least he is attractive unlike that goon Milibot.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for the Tories) Labour members are indulgent and suicidal twits too. They have a candidate in Kendall that will storm it in 2020. However, they might pick Burnham who comes across as a bit of an ass and is only marginally better than the Milibot.

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I watched the hustings and sure Corbyn comes across well, as indeed did Liz Kendall.

I'd put my politics at about 10% to the left of average. So if I vote for Labour they get 40% of the popular vote. I have voted for Labour in the past.

Corbyn might command 25% of the country, Burnham 30%, Cooper 35%, Kendall 45%.

So the at least the three sensible options (excluding Corbyn) will do better than that complete twit Miliband. Burnham's a bit of an idiot, he speaks in nonsense political language that nobody really understands a bit like the Milibot really, just complete unintelligible twaddle from his flat Northern vowels, I guess the women like his eyes and at least he is attractive unlike that goon Milibot.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for the Tories) Labour members are indulgent and suicidal twits too. They have a candidate in Kendall that will storm it in 2020. However, they might pick Burnham who comes across as a bit of an ass and is only marginally better than the Milibot.

Please tell me this is satire... :rolleyes:

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Judged on that performance I would say Kendall has put herself out of the running. The audience twigged her politics straight away, and were not impressed. As many pointed out afterwards, the problem with Labour for a long time has been that it has been barely distinguishable from the Tories, and Kendall reduces the distinction even further. But, apart from that her performance itself was unconfident and floundering in my view, no doubt shaken by the fact that her comments received no positive response and it was Corbyn's comments that were provoking the most applause. That must have shaken her world view shaped by the Westminster bubble and the Tory media. Compared to her, Ed Miliband came over as a tower of power, so if he was considered a liability because of not having the right leadership qualities, Kendall has to be a non-starter. [As one wag put it on twitter, she's like David Cameron in a really bad wig :D ]

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I'd possibly vote for Liz Kendall depending on who the Tory was, nobody else though.

Even voting for her would be slim odds though.

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Look this Labour leadership is all a distraction, we all know who's going to win "Andy Burnham" Andy Burnham.jpg it's already been decided and it has nothing to do with what the rank and file membership wants.

Now I don't know if he had a accident as a kid or it's just botox injections :) ?Hey !! He should give 'Putin' a ring and ask who did his face job ! :lol: at least they did a better job :D

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I read an interview with Jeremy Corbyn in the Guardian. He doesn't want to be Prime Minister. He wants to be a caretaker leader while Labour works out some policies.

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