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2 hours ago, Hechnical Titch said:

This is beyond a joke now - seemingly beardies and those with tatoos are now on his list of undesirables. Unlikely to earn enough by sounds of it... 

http://m.kentlive.news/this-bearded-man-just-shut-down-fergus-wilson-in-the-most-brutal-way/story-30260729-detail/story.html

 

It really does start to read like the Daily Mash doesn't it ...

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2 hours ago, Hechnical Titch said:

This is beyond a joke now - seemingly beardies and those with tatoos are now on his list of undesirables. Unlikely to earn enough by sounds of it... 

http://m.kentlive.news/this-bearded-man-just-shut-down-fergus-wilson-in-the-most-brutal-way/story-30260729-detail/story.html

 

It's getting pretty difficult to become one of the lucky few to qualify for being able to pay extortionate sums of money to a total scumbag to live in some unmaintained shithole.

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1 hour ago, Bear Hug said:

It's getting pretty difficult to become one of the lucky few to qualify for being able to pay extortionate sums of money to a total scumbag to live in some unmaintained shithole.

The only people left who he would allow to live in his houses are those who would never need to have to rent one of his shitty little houses. It's the Groucho Marx paradox. 

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12 hours ago, Bland Unsight said:

Obviously there is literally nothing nastier than somebody inserting two smileys into a forum post about a landlord having their flat trashed. It's a commonplace for contemporary historians to observe that whilst Stalin was a monster we can only be grateful for the fact that he had no access to smileys.

:D

It's very difficult to unambiguously assess another poster's feelings and intentions from what they post, and the more succinct the post, the more difficult it becomes. You're entering into a conversation that has been running for well over a decade. Many of the people you are judging ("some here") have been part of that conversation for years.

If you're looking for a conversation where people won't laugh at landlords who come a cropper, you're probably in the wrong place on this thread.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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On 3/23/2017 at 2:26 PM, ebull said:

so if the woman [who judging by what's under the mess had provided a decent, clean, maintained rental to her tenant] now tops herself due to financial pressure leaving sick parent whom she is taking into her own home for care reliant on the state will YOU be upping it to Triple grins?

 

17 hours ago, ebull said:

The article was about some woman who'd had something she had worked on trashed [the suggestion and my guess is that she actually scrubbed the trashed flat herself].  Neither the article nor what you say suggests she did anything of the nature of Fungus-antics.

The hate [TWO laughing smilies at her misfortune] of some here for all landlords regardless is just mean. My question was a sarcastic version of "Are you really that nasty?". How much nastier do you want to get?

Anyway you're the third poster who has answered yes, it seems. No-one answered no. Asked and answered.

Understand the reason, shame you're hating on the wrong person.

Back to OT: No question from me on unlimited smilies about any misfortune happenning to the fat one since he clearly treats his tenants badly and breaks the law.

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/sheerness/news/landlord-finds-home-trashed-122671/

Scrubbed the trashed flat herself?  

Invested in.  

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said the most disheartening thing of all was the property had been done up only two years ago.

She said: “We’d put brand new carpets in, completely redecorated it, the kitchen had been re-tiled, we’d put new doors, windows and fencing in. It was spotlessly clean.”

 

 

Unless she did all this 'work' by herself.  Did she build the house as well?

'Work' - work work work, work work work.... yeah sure.

And many a would-be OO could pay for their own choice in carpets and decoration, if they were not outbid by BTLers year after year after decades.

It isn't fully clear who did the damage.  The exact circumstances.  Perhaps vandals after tenants moved out.  One of the risks with BTLing/landlordism.   Although there is an awful lot of bagged up rubbish outside.... 

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Police are investigating two lines of enquiry – one that the previous tenants were the victims of a burglary and another of criminal damage.

 

 

Maybe her insurance will cover it.

Maybe the landlord will be more careful to who she accepts as tenants in the future.   Maybe in the future she will insist (although not welcome by me) on regular inspections, and do them herself rather than trust an agent.

Maybe she will decide to sell up, and perhaps it will be sold to FTBs at a much lower price than such houses have been selling at in recent times, as BTLers fall away from the market. :):)

Life isn't fair.  There are very many different levels and dimensions of meanness.  

Multi-property landlord, and we should be guilt tripped by your view she might top herself over £10K repair / 3 month void?   It's just a crap terrace that a multi property BTLer has rented out.

What about real problems in life?    Top themselves?   What?

How much nastier can we/I get?   I have no feelings at all to the multi-property BTLers.  

They are in the position they want/wanted to be in, in the housing market. :)   She wanted to be a landlord. :) Such outcomes are obvious possibilities with being a BTLer.   That BTLer could have been a homeowner before her previous tenants were even born.

If I think of anything in this story, it is seeing baby/children stuff in the rooms.   The (iCandy) carrycot.   Toys.  Accessories.  Trampoline.  Seems to me as though (once) very good intentions from parents/guardians to children there.   I don't know the circumstances of what occurred there.   My mind lingers on whether any children have had to put up with difficult times living there.   Some people are bad bad people... tenants and landlords.  If there was adult tenant wrong-doing then hopefully it will catch up with them (but not their children) in the future.

I do know I would prefer more families to have opportunity for home ownership at lower prices, with a view that it helps create more stable communities/family set-ups, and gives people a stake in society vs - massive BTLism (multiple home 'plight'... "£10K end of the world" guilt trip supporters).

And other effects mass BTLism and housing financialisation may have had on other people's lives , with insecure tenancies, HPI+++, expensive rents, sometimes leading to more cautious planning for choices others could take easily in times past.  

So no.... my mind is not on the 'what if a multi-property LL tops herself' projection plight of a multiple older property investor with a £10K bill and a few months voids. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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I think that Byron cut to the chase when he mentioned his anger at the fact that these clowns meant that family formation is delayed and thus some people have gone to their grave having never met their grandchildren, just so that we could have a societally destructive housing bubble.
 
For me it's all about how do you respond to idiocy and iniquity. If you see a chance to make an easy buck and pile in, I think you are scum. I don't think that's manipulative. It's just my opinion.
 
[..]I'm not saying, "Golly, if I can make everyone believe this rubbish, I'll get a cheap house", I'm saying, "This is societally destructive unsustainable idiocy and I refuse to be complicit by an act of commission". I can't stop some herbert like Mark ganging up with a shit bank and using my earnings to pay a BTL mortgage but I can chose not to hand over my savings and sign up for a whacking great repayment mortgage.

 

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He added: "My properties in Ashford are upmarket estates. They are expensive and tend to attract a high proportion of professional middle class tenants including solicitors, barristers, bank officials and so on.

:lol::lol:

Two smilies because I'm feeling positively dastardly this morning.

So is this what its all about? Has Fergus finally had enough of non paying tenants, so he's decided to kick out all the undesirables and re-market his undeniably classy portfolio as a utopian dream for high earning, professional, perfect families?

Like this?

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Perfect tenant families?

Pay attention now:  No beards.  No tenants with children under 18 (a child over 18 can be a co-tenant).  No tenants with pets.

Additionally, the property in the last picture has trees growing far too close, which will lead to long-term problems with roots causing foundation subsidence.  Not a mistake that Fergus is likely to allow for one of his superbly maintained, high-class upmarket properties.

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1 hour ago, Fully Detached said:

F**k it...

This? Ah, that's better. Lovely family. Perfect tenants.

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Make sure theydon't eat curry!

Great post btw Bland 

:D:):D

  3 smilies cos I'm a big meanie

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55 minutes ago, Dyson Fury said:

Perfect tenant families?

Pay attention now:  No beards.  No tenants with children under 18 (a child over 18 can be a co-tenant).  No tenants with pets.

Additionally, the property in the last picture has trees growing far too close, which will lead to long-term problems with roots causing foundation subsidence.  Not a mistake that Fergus is likely to allow for one of his superbly maintained, high-class upmarket properties.

I don't think even himself and Judith would qualify to be his own tenants: unemployed couple with a history of violence.  That fails on two counts already.

However, I can put myself in shoes of a 70-year old man and imagine that I will definitely be tired of all the shit and hassle of dealing with people.

So the question for me is not why this old man is so intolerant, but why on earth he decided that hundreds of BTL properties are a good hobby to take up in retirement.  Particularly as he doesn't get on with tradesmen or estate agents.  

I am not making any excuses for his clearly unacceptable behaviour, but he has set himself up to fail and this will just get worse as he gets older and weaker; and his investment further under water.

 

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1 hour ago, Dyson Fury said:

Perfect tenant families?

Pay attention now:  No beards.  No tenants with children under 18 (a child over 18 can be a co-tenant).  No tenants with pets.

Additionally, the property in the last picture has trees growing far too close, which will lead to long-term problems with roots causing foundation subsidence.  Not a mistake that Fergus is likely to allow for one of his superbly maintained, high-class upmarket properties.

Is anyone any good with Photoshop? Even Google is struggling to find a family that will meet Fergus' requirements.

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1 hour ago, Bear Hug said:

I don't think even himself and Judith would qualify to be his own tenants: unemployed couple with a history of violence.  That fails on two counts already.

I do seriously wonder who his tenants are.  Up to 1,000 houses, mostly concentrated in one district near Ashford.  Stories of evicting tenants on housing benefit from maybe 200 of them.  Who are the tenants in these properties now? There are not that many single professionals or young couples who meet all his criteria.  Even if the houses are well situated close to the station for a high-speed train commute to London.  And most of the people who do meet his criteria will probably prefer to avoid having him as landlord.

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Is it time to revive this old article:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-1683560/Buy-to-let-icons-owe-350000-on-mortgages.html

'But it seems the former maths teachers may have got their calculations wrong, with dozens of properties lying empty and others on the brink of being repossessed.

The Daily Mail, This is Money's sister title, has learned the couple are up to £350,000 in arrears on their monthly mortgage payments with one lender.

Mortgage Express, owned by Bradford & Bingley, has sent a final warning letter to the couple, who are believed to have 177 of their properties mortgaged with the bank.'




 

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