Si1 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 ....I think they call it codependency..... This is good. From experience if you had one or more abusive people in your upbringing then this may lead you to seek similar abusive romantic relationships, since it's what you're used to, and this is a condition that needs healing. Certainly there are deeply abusive women out there, who always seem to have the vulnerable weak female defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is good. From experience if you had one or more abusive people in your upbringing then this may lead you to seek similar abusive romantic relationships, since it's what you're used to, and this is a condition that needs healing. Certainly there are deeply abusive women out there, who always seem to have the vulnerable weak female defence.I thought it was rather good at explaining codependency, not heard of the guy or the book before only found ten minutes before posting.I would agree that both men and women can have self-esteem issues but anger in men more often than not is released as outbursts of sudden violence, where women more often use mental/psychological abuse as a defence..... Both ugly both are painful,one can more easily be seen.....both dysfunctional and best avoided..... Bad people bring out the worst in others, good people bring out the best in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I thought it was rather good at explaining codependency, not heard of the guy or the book before only found ten minutes before posting. I would agree that both men and women can have self-esteem issues but anger in men more often than not is released as outbursts of sudden violence, where women more often use mental/psychological abuse as a defence..... Both ugly both are painful,one can more easily be seen.....both dysfunctional and best avoided..... Bad people bring out the worst in others, good people bring out the best in others. You are wise again! Collect your new angel wings from God's office, when I have finished smiting. If you are ginger or blonde they are on a two week back order, but we have black, grey and brown ones in stock now, in most sizes, at God's Angel Warehouse! If you don't think you are good enough to shop here, you aren't! Still our sister company "Satan's Bottom", sell horns, spikey tails, and red contact lenses, for those of you that didn't quite make it, due to a life of deparavity and sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Now its child kidnapping. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-33088257 How this story is being reported compared to if the situation was reversed ? Wow. Now maybe this woman has a point and all. None of us know. However the way it has been reported on the TV and online is completely different to if it has been a bloke taking his child away without consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 The main link on the BBC is: "We are safe says MISSING mum" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Now its child kidnapping. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-33088257 How this story is being reported compared to if the situation was reversed ? Wow. Now maybe this woman has a point and all. None of us know. However the way it has been reported on the TV and online is completely different to if it has been a bloke taking his child away without consent. Whilst I disagree this is child kidnapping, I entirely agree with CCC that had it been the man who did this the story would be entirely different, a manhunt setup, 24 hour reporting and a man putting his case on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Now its child kidnapping. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-33088257 How this story is being reported compared to if the situation was reversed ? Wow. Now maybe this woman has a point and all. None of us know. However the way it has been reported on the TV and online is completely different to if it has been a bloke taking his child away without consent. "On 27 May this year a district judge ruled Ethan should live with his father after finding Ms Minnock had made false allegations and obstructed contact between the father and son." If those "false allegations" are what I suspect, then she is one nasty piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 "On 27 May this year a district judge ruled Ethan should live with his father after finding Ms Minnock had made false allegations and obstructed contact between the father and son." If those "false allegations" are what I suspect, then she is one nasty piece of work. If sympathy is gained due to the public fashion, which I think is the thrust of your suspicion, then a desperate person would be wise to jump on the bandwagon. Luckily, some in positions of power realise that the public fashion is not always the reality although the fashion would make one think it was.. Judges should be impartial and subject to the evidence of fact and circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 She said she couldn't take proper books. She had to listen while doing housework or ironing, because, 'He doesn't like me reading.' I was almost speechless. I wanted to shake her and yell, 'Why don't you just tell him to sod off, the pathetic little man?' Don't you think the husband's alleged views might've been purely an excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The more I read about this kind of thing, the less surprised I am at the growth of the MGTOW (men going their own way) movement of men who have just decided to opt out entirely from marriage/fatherhood/cohabitation and either remain celibate or stick to short term relationships and/or paying for sex. It seemed perverse to me at first but after a certain amount of life experience I can understand it. It's just too much effort for too little reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The more I read about this kind of thing, the less surprised I am at the growth of the MGTOW (men going their own way) movement of men who have just decided to opt out entirely from marriage/fatherhood/cohabitation and either remain celibate or stick to short term relationships and/or paying for sex. It seemed perverse to me at first but after a certain amount of life experience I can understand it. It's just too much effort for too little reward. They've recently outlawed prostitution where I live, which cuts off that avenue unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 They've recently outlawed prostitution where I live, which cuts off that avenue unfortunately. It's known as the oldest profession for a reason. They can 'outlaw' it as much as they like but there will always be ways round it. Eg in London its done under the guise of 'escort services' etc. Where there's a will(y) there's a way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SirGaz Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 A good friend of mine hasn't been able to see his kids for five years now. The marriage broke up in 2010 because of her drug problem (cocaine) she then disappeared with the kids after he was granted access. She is now with a chap who is not a nice piece of work but still effectively in hiding, all my friend gets are the occasional phone calls from her mother telling him that the kids are fine. He is petrified that if he does try and force the issue with the police she will make up some story about him being abusive in some way, she is a very, very nasty sort. Lawyers are involved but he doesn't want to press for any action on the part of the legal beagles, yet. The thing was, even when he first met her back in 2001 anyone with any sense could tell she was a nutter but would he listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Running away with children is not right........children are only children for a very short time, they will find their deserted other parent and lost time will be quality time, time worth waiting for......nobody can steal the love of another and get away with it forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 It's known as the oldest profession for a reason. They can 'outlaw' it as much as they like but there will always be ways round it. Eg in London its done under the guise of 'escort services' etc. Where there's a will(y) there's a way.... Yeah it's called escorting over here too. It's less than a month into the ban and there's still girls advertising - be interesting to see if the police actually nick any punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Austin Allegro Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah it's called escorting over here too. It's less than a month into the ban and there's still girls advertising - be interesting to see if the police actually nick any punters. I thought you lived in the UK? In most countries the police only act if prostitution is a public nuisance, or if there are clear cases of running a disorderly house or living off immoral earnings, trafficking, drug abuse etc etc. To prove that money has changed hands for sex is very difficult and involves putting woman police constables in...ahem...sticky situations which could be thrown out by a court as provocative. It tends to only happen in low-budget straight to video films shown on Channel five late at night, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I thought you lived in the UK? In most countries the police only act if prostitution is a public nuisance, or if there are clear cases of running a disorderly house or living off immoral earnings, trafficking, drug abuse etc etc. To prove that money has changed hands for sex is very difficult and involves putting woman police constables in...ahem...sticky situations which could be thrown out by a court as provocative. It tends to only happen in low-budget straight to video films shown on Channel five late at night, I think. I live in Northern Ireland - it's the only part of the uk to tighten the laws in this way; driven by the religious nutjobs that we have in local government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 A good friend of mine hasn't been able to see his kids for five years now. The marriage broke up in 2010 because of her drug problem (cocaine) she then disappeared with the kids after he was granted access. She is now with a chap who is not a nice piece of work but still effectively in hiding, all my friend gets are the occasional phone calls from her mother telling him that the kids are fine. He is petrified that if he does try and force the issue with the police she will make up some story about him being abusive in some way, she is a very, very nasty sort. Lawyers are involved but he doesn't want to press for any action on the part of the legal beagles, yet. The thing was, even when he first met her back in 2001 anyone with any sense could tell she was a nutter but would he listen? That sounds very shit on the bloke. Two sides to every story of course - but whatever is happening - he is being done over. There is no doubt that she will be feeding lies and nonsense to her kids about their dad. Personally - and maybe he is already doing this - he should keep a record of EVERY attempt he makes to make contact. EVERY time she refuses. All the court action taken etc... When he finally gets to meet them one day - probably their choosing - their mind will be filled with the lies they have been told. And like most children - they will probably believe it. Not their fault - human nature. With all this evidence however - he can simply hand it over and say 'read it' - then walk away and tell them to get in contact if they still want to. Never been in this situation - but that's what I would do if I was. If not - its just his word against their mums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I live in Northern Ireland - it's the only part of the uk to tighten the laws in this way; driven by the religious nutjobs that we have in local government. Ah right. I bet for many over there, sexual repression is the icing on the cake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Ah right. I bet for many over there, sexual repression is the icing on the cake... Touche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGaz Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 he should keep a record of EVERY attempt he makes to make contact. EVERY time she refuses. All the court action taken etc... When he finally gets to meet them one day - probably their choosing - their mind will be filled with the lies they have been told. And like most children - they will probably believe it. Not their fault - human nature. With all this evidence however - he can simply hand it over and say 'read it' - then walk away and tell them to get in contact if they still want to. It was the first thing his (female) Lawyer told him to do, I think her mum tells the kids their dad still loves them but she has to be careful if she wants to maintain contact with the kids. The mother truly is a coked up fruit loop, she hides the cocaine so well my friend wasn't even sure after they were married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-33120424 Headline = "missing mother and boy found safe" ******ing nauseating - its disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitevanman Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-33120424 Headline = "missing mother and boy found safe" ******ing nauseating - its disgusting. Oi you heartless *******! Mother and child are getting the help they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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