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MPs would love it if it was possible that we all could get half of their intended pay rise........clear some of the old debt to enable us to take on more long-term debt, spend more and create a clearer illusion of prosperity.......unfortunately they will become richer and the gap between the rest will grow greater.......we are, after all in competition with the rest of the world, but hey, they who hold the purse strings can pay themselves what they will.......they will just have to help out by employing more maids and gardeners. ;)

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Wouldn't it be easier to just shoot the poor.

The poor have been having a bit of a miserable time of it lately they may welcome the chance to be put out of their misery.

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We need the poor - lots of them.

We keep importing hundreds of thousands a year, so we MUST need them surely?

What we don't need are the "white regional poor" who refuse to get with the programme and move to the south east to get a guaranteed zero hours job making coffees for millionaires whilst earning 7 quid an hour and living in a shed

Shoot THOSE c***s - every one of them!

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What we don't need are the "white regional poor" who refuse to get with the programme and move to the south east to get a guaranteed zero hours job making coffees for millionaires whilst earning 7 quid an hour and living in a shed

Shoot THOSE c***s - every one of them!

The would have been Leyland workers on a tidy pension/retirement plan 40 years ago. Now they live in a service-economy that accepts annually 300,000 net frontier workers from the old eastern bloc who are profoundly incentivised to leverage their advantages and live 8 to a terraced house, and send back 90% of their wages toward their retire-at-45 plan in their home country.

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The would have been Leyland workers on a tidy pension/retirement plan 40 years ago. Now they live in a service-economy that accepts annually 300,000 net frontier workers from the old eastern bloc who are profoundly incentivised to leverage their advantages and live 8 to a terraced house, and send back 90% of their wages toward their retire-at-45 plan in their home country.

Can't blame them though. I'm doing the same thing myself except the 8 to a house bit plus I'm a slacker by only saving 55% of gross.

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Can't blame them though. I'm doing the same thing myself except the 8 to a house bit plus I'm a slacker by only saving 55% of gross.

Me neither - they're simply lucky to have that leverage. However, the big difference between them and us is the long-term plan - they can leverage their income back home, we can't - we must move away from our home country as the "end game", not merely during the working/saving years.

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The would have been Leyland workers on a tidy pension/retirement plan 40 years ago. Now they live in a service-economy that accepts annually 300,000 net frontier workers from the old eastern bloc who are profoundly incentivised to leverage their advantages and live 8 to a terraced house, and send back 90% of their wages toward their retire-at-45 plan in their home country.

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but the 300k net isn't all Eastern Europeans by a long chalk - the non-EU migration alone was over the "under 100k" election promise:

  • Lots of skilled immigrants from India and other non-EU places - supressing graduate wages and opportunities. One of my best mates is an Indian graduate who came here, did his MBA, and then took a £12k a year admin job - a few years down the line he's a British citizen and earning £80k+ in London - great for the economy, but an opportunity that will not go to a British born person. We get away with very little in the way of decent education/employment packages for NHS roles too, and instead we import a lot of healthcare professionals to meet demand.
  • Lots of unskilled migrants from Africa (try to find an office cleaner in London who isn't African?)
  • The politically sensiitive one - lots of immigration through arranged marriages and 'right to a family life' rules, especially in concentrated Muslim areas like Bradford - the level of first cousin marriage there is leading to serious genetic issues. Essentially, you can end up with an entire extended family here on the basis that you let a working age couple come here in the 1970s. Nobody wants to talk about this one because the whole deck of race cards will be dealt to them and it would be political suicide - UKIP has always gone after EU migration in my view, simply because they are mainly white.

For what its worth, I know quite a few Eastern European migrants and they fall into 3 distinct camps - "inward facing" ones - typically in fairly crap jobs, here to earn and then leave with money, don't socialise with English people, leave kids back home. The "outward facing" ones - often in better jobs or professions, tend to want to stay, often have English friends and kids in school. The "scumbags" - small but significant minority. Criminals and/or abusers of the benefit system. Includes nearly all eastern european Gypsies - but again, you can't say that out loud in this country.

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Me neither - they're simply lucky to have that leverage. However, the big difference between them and us is the long-term plan - they can leverage their income back home, we can't - we must move away from our home country as the "end game", not merely during the working/saving years.

I wouldn't say lucky as they're making their own luck. Good on them.

I love this great country and I'm fully aware that the grass is never greener just a different shade. That said for me it's the right thing to do.

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