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Good programme. Developers screw us all over.

Without the government backed banks the developers would be fighting over pennies.

The government policy on funding banks with printed money is the problem and until they are made stop this madness will continue.

Thankfully I suspect that time is imminent.

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Radio 4 now.

Most revealing statement from the developer was the fact that they let slip that their buyers don't want social housing tenants as they would take the development downmarket, i.e. reduce the value of their investment.

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Grant planning permission with a 5 year use it or lose clause.

The house builders (and Tescos) are sitting on vast swathes of land.

They are sitting on it as they paid too much for it and are trying to force prices higher.

After 5 years, put the land into auction.

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A very depressing program, why do we need "affordable housing" ?are the right people getting it?, would it be better just to build and let the market sort it out? Were all questions that it didn't ask.

I am glad that we do not have much affordable housing being built as I guess that it wouldn't go to people like me even if I were broke.

On a new tricks episode the murder victim lived in a 3 bed council flat, the police were amazed that a single man could get a flat like that, they correctly deduced that he must have been under witness protection. It is depressing that a single man living in a council flat is lucky.

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I could never understand 'affordable housing' surely if there is a high demand in a certain location once it is bought then sold it then becomes unaffordable...like right to buy only means the right of cheaper housing is for the first buyer, the buyer that had that opportunity to buy at an affordable price, they then make the biggest profit when they sell and move on......then becomes unaffordable. ;)

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Radio 4 now.

Yet another crisis

OMG! Another one

We've had one every day for the last 65 years. They'll never run out of ways to keep the people fearful and terrified

Edited by UK Debt Slave

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A very depressing program, why do we need "affordable housing" ?are the right people getting it?, would it be better just to build and let the market sort it out? Were all questions that it didn't ask.

I am glad that we do not have much affordable housing being built as I guess that it wouldn't go to people like me even if I were broke.

On a new tricks episode the murder victim lived in a 3 bed council flat, the police were amazed that a single man could get a flat like that, they correctly deduced that he must have been under witness protection. It is depressing that a single man living in a council flat is lucky.

Indeed. Especially since 'affordable housing' is priced against a percentage of the current "local market" ... so an affordable flat in Chelsea is affordable if it is 75% of the local market price. How on earth would that make it affordable?

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Indeed. Especially since 'affordable housing' is priced against a percentage of the current "local market" ... so an affordable flat in Chelsea is affordable if it is 75% of the local market price. How on earth would that make it affordable?

That is the joke of allowing the term to be used in the first instance.

Along with the whole "if they build more it'll sort the problem" when everyone knows the developer are only willing to build if they can be guaranteed to get the "unaffordable" price.

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Isn't the business model for housing premised on the idea that property should be as unaffordable as possible, forcing the sheep away from the freedom to roam the fields, and into the debt pen to be sheared on a regular basis. It was never about affordability. It will never be about affordability.

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And your remark is relevant to this thread how?

Basically because the poster has maybe been going through shit of his own - maybe homelessness (I don't know) and the thought of Syrian refugees - although worthy - does not in itself affect the poster's own situation. Hey why don't we start thinking about our own homeless people before any refugees. Sorry to upset your Guardian applecart, Andy.

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Basically because the poster has maybe been going through shit of his own - maybe homelessness (I don't know) and the thought of Syrian refugees - although worthy - does not in itself affect the poster's own situation. Hey why don't we start thinking about our own homeless people before any refugees. Sorry to upset your Guardian applecart, Andy.

My point is, we don't have a housing 'crisis' that requires thousands of families to live out in tents, in the UK. We have a shortage of houses available to buy/rent, I have no problem with building 250k houses a year, wherever, but we all know how they'll be absorbed.

I don't read newspapers, Jemmy.

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Isn't the business model for housing premised on the idea that property should be as unaffordable as possible, forcing the sheep away from the freedom to roam the fields, and into the debt pen to be sheared on a regular basis. It was never about affordability. It will never be about affordability.

100%

I posted this elsewhere, but ostensibly this is what you are saying.

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