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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3075600/Visitors-1billion-super-hospital-getting-stuck-lifts-no-buttons-inside.html

  • New £1bn super hospital in Glasgow opened doors to patients last month
  • State-of-the-art building includes cinema, robots and button-less lifts
  • But confused staff and visitors are getting trapped by confusing new system

Visitors to a £1billion new super-hospital keep getting trapped in the lifts - because they have no buttons inside.

The futuristic new 14-storey South Glasgow University Hospital opened to patients last month featuring robots, a children's cinema and lifts without buttons to try and bring 'healthcare into the 21st century.'

But it appears the ultra-modern facility appears to be ultra-confusing for many staff and patients who claim they have spent 'what seems like days' trapped in the speeding elevators.

One hospital worker said: 'It's an amazing building but I've spent the majority of my time in the lift so far - as have a lot of people.

'You can easily get sucked into them for what seems an interminable age.

'If you jump in without thinking, or if you're chatting and not concentrating, you can find yourself - for what seems like hours - zooming from floor to floor.

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The issue arises from the fact that the new modern new lifts which will only travel to pre-selected floors. Anyone jumping in without pressing a floor number first may be stuck for quite some time.

It has become such an issue that NHS bosses have now enlisted staff and volunteers to explain how to use them properly.

There are even animated films to help people figure out how to negotiate the new building.

How much of this is true? Anyone been to this hospital and is the £1bn price tag another glorious piece of SNP propaganda, could they have built more hospitals for Scotland with the money.

Anyone got stuck in a lift on here? Is the trick if you forget to press what floor to select it when the lift next stops? Although is it common for lift systems to have no buttons in the lift???

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If a thing is too stupidly designed to actually use, then thats a great excuse for many to abuse it further. Command queues in the system. press all the wrong buttons. you know...active rebelion against technical stupidity.

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Does the lift just stop at every floor anyone might want? All very well if it's easy to tell where you are.

I used to have panicky nightmares about the Paternoster lift in a Sheffield university building. No doors, never stops - you just step in and out. Hence nightmares about it going too fast to be able to get in or out, even though I never had trouble using it.

Not sure anyone would install one nowadays - certainly not disabled-friendly.

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Does the lift just stop at every floor anyone might want? All very well if it's easy to tell where you are.

I used to have panicky nightmares about the Paternoster lift in a Sheffield university building. No doors, never stops - you just step in and out. Hence nightmares about it going too fast to be able to get in or out, even though I never had trouble using it.

Not sure anyone would install one nowadays - certainly not disabled-friendly.

I think David Lodge writes about one in Changing Places.

I am fairly certain I wouldn't be able to get on one.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3075600/Visitors-1billion-super-hospital-getting-stuck-lifts-no-buttons-inside.html

How much of this is true? Anyone been to this hospital and is the £1bn price tag another glorious piece of SNP propaganda, could they have built more hospitals for Scotland with the money.

Anyone got stuck in a lift on here? Is the trick if you forget to press what floor to select it when the lift next stops? Although is it common for lift systems to have no buttons in the lift???

Pre-select your floor? Looks like a fix for a problem that doesn't exist....

However, the building only has 14 floors, how can you be "lost for nearly half an hour"?

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Does the lift just stop at every floor anyone might want? All very well if it's easy to tell where you are.

Not unless you press the button for that floor, or someone calls the lift in that floor.

The difference here is that you must press the button for the floor BEFORE you get into the lift. You press the button on a centre console and the console then tells you "lift 4". Only lift 4 will stop at your requested floor.

The idea is that the system tries to match passengers with lifts that are already stopping at their start and destination floors.

This is very common in high rise buildings world wide because it greatly improves efficiency of the lifts, reducing journey times.

It's pretty new technology in the UK, so it's not surprising that people are not used to it.

I'm sure there are clear instructions shown, but you get a lot of thick people who don't read, or think they know better.

I worked in an 18 story tower for a while. There were huge notices on the lift call buttons "only press the button for the direction you want. Pressing both delays your journey, slows the lifts down, causes congestion and wastes electricity". Every single time I went passed someone thought they knew better and had pushed both.

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I'm sure there are clear instructions shown, but you get a lot of thick people who don't read, or think they know better.

In a hospital I expect you might get an above-average number of people who can't read any such thing.

A hospital that big very probably includes at least some specialist services for eye problems. As well as more generally, for patients whose neurological conditions or plain trauma stand in the way of coming to terms with the unfamiliar.

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Does the lift just stop at every floor anyone might want? All very well if it's easy to tell where you are.

I used to have panicky nightmares about the Paternoster lift in a Sheffield university building. No doors, never stops - you just step in and out. Hence nightmares about it going too fast to be able to get in or out, even though I never had trouble using it.

Not sure anyone would install one nowadays - certainly not disabled-friendly.

Is that splendid beastie still running? They missed a trick by not locating something essential for engineering students on the top floor there, to secure free maintenance ;)

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In a hospital I expect you might get an above-average number of people who can't read any such thing.

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You are right. I should not have been so quick.

Though my comments were mainly directed at the staff who keep getting stuck, and who were the main cause of misuse in my experience.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3075600/Visitors-1billion-super-hospital-getting-stuck-lifts-no-buttons-inside.html

How much of this is true? Anyone been to this hospital and is the £1bn price tag another glorious piece of SNP propaganda, could they have built more hospitals for Scotland with the money.

Finally you have outed yourself as being on the Mail payroll interestrateripoff.

Did you also write this article?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057874/Fury-new-1bn-super-hospital-Glasgow-robots-private-cinema-NHS-England-faces-difficult-year-history.html

I think the first comment in the comments section says it all:

"How dare you Scotland - you build a super hospital that replaces 4 Victorian hospitals that were falling apart. A hospital that will be a centre for excellence for the whole of the United Kingdom. Tax payers funding a hospital to treat their own ill family members - how very dare they! Go and spend your tax payers money on trident, high speed rail or other waste-of-money investments instead of something that the people absolutely need."

Another example of how the Scots have awoken from their political slumber whilst the English continue to doze on with no signs of awakening. People such as yourself interestrateripoff need to take a long hard look at yourself.

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Its one of those efficient sets of lifts where you type in the floor you want and it tells you which out of a number of lifts to get into, the set of lifts works out which lift is nearest or is going to that floor anyway and directs you to that lift, it saves energy because it cuts down on the number of movements the lifts are making.

Theoretically not to hard to use, but its s little confusing the first time, and many people go to hospitals for one off visit's.

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Is that splendid beastie still running? They missed a trick by not locating something essential for engineering students on the top floor there, to secure free maintenance ;)

Don't know whether it's still there.

Back in the very very olden days when I was using it on an almost daily basis, we found that you could light a Player's No. 6 as you got in, go all the way up, down, and back to where you started, and that was exactly how long your cheap cig would last. :-)

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The Victoria hospital in Kirkcaldy has the exact same lifts. They work exactly as you say reddog. It really isn't rocket science to use them. If this is the worst thing the mail can find to bash the UK's newest and best hospital then the Scottish government must have done a great job.

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Finally you have outed yourself as being on the Mail payroll interestrateripoff.

Did you also write this article?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057874/Fury-new-1bn-super-hospital-Glasgow-robots-private-cinema-NHS-England-faces-difficult-year-history.html

I think the first comment in the comments section says it all:

"How dare you Scotland - you build a super hospital that replaces 4 Victorian hospitals that were falling apart. A hospital that will be a centre for excellence for the whole of the United Kingdom. Tax payers funding a hospital to treat their own ill family members - how very dare they! Go and spend your tax payers money on trident, high speed rail or other waste-of-money investments instead of something that the people absolutely need."

Another example of how the Scots have awoken from their political slumber whilst the English continue to doze on with no signs of awakening. People such as yourself interestrateripoff need to take a long hard look at yourself.

The point is could they have got more hospital space for the same money and treated more Scotish patients. Is this point beyond your grasp?

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The point is could they have got more hospital space for the same money and treated more Scotish patients. Is this point beyond your grasp?

If you really cared about whether the money spent building this hospital could have been better spent on more hospitals then you might have written your first post in a less click baity way. It is clear you are just doing your employers bidding, trying to get views for their bullsh*t article.

The hospital came in ahead of schedule and under budget at £842 million. Quite a difference to the £1 billion lie published by your employers.

A single large hospital is so much more efficient than say 4 smaller ones. I think most people would agree on that for obvious reasons.

The people of Glasgow are very happy with this new hospital. The only people that are not seem to be the English who are lapping up the bullsh*t propaganda flowing from your employers.

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A single large hospital is so much more efficient than say 4 smaller ones. I think most people would agree on that for obvious reasons.

Is the most efficient hospital the best hospital?

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So large scale and impersonal, get everything done as quickly and as cheaply as possible, patients on a conveyor belt approach will give people the best healthcare?

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I worked in an office block that had the same lift setup and it was very easy to walk into the lift without first selecting a floor if you weren't used to it. Having said that, the worst that happened was that you ended up back on the ground floor where the doors opened automatically. I don't think it was actually possible to get stuck inside a lift long term.

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So large scale and impersonal, get everything done as quickly and as cheaply as possible, patients on a conveyor belt approach will give people the best healthcare?

Who says efficient has to be impersonal? Efficient may mean more time to spend with patients. You are just being negative.

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So large scale and impersonal, get everything done as quickly and as cheaply as possible, patients on a conveyor belt approach will give people the best healthcare?

Not to mention the fact that patients and visitors now have to travel much further, and are fleeced by swinging parking fees.

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