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Nice one lol!

Actually, the population of Britain is what 60-70m ? Scotland 5m ? If you could post a picture of 12 blokes, preferably hard-core loyalist terrorist types throttling a nice little girl in tartan then you could claim its just an image based on concrete fact and really galvanise nationalism !

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Nice one lol!

Actually, the population of Britain is what 60-70m ? Scotland 5m ? If you could post a picture of 12 blokes, preferably hard-core loyalist terrorist types throttling a nice little girl in tartan then you could claim its just an image based on concrete fact and really galvanise nationalism !

I can't find a photo like that but it turns out that the guy in the middle of the photo above isn't all that peaceful after all.

Turns out he is a member of the national front and is awaiting sentencing for threatening to shoot and petrol bomb a couple of Scottish Socialist party supporters.

I am sure the Scottish newspapers will have a front page story about it tomorrow and the BBC will have a segment on it too...

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I can't find a photo like that but it turns out that the guy in the middle of the photo above isn't all that peaceful after all.

Turns out he is a member of the national front and is awaiting sentencing for threatening to shoot and petrol bomb a couple of Scottish Socialist party supporters.

I am sure the Scottish newspapers will have a front page story about it tomorrow and the BBC will have a segment on it too...

Bingo! That'll do - A metaphor for 60m racist terrorists threatening violence through the Union on 5m innocent Scots. Don't you love how nationalism works ?

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Bingo! That'll do - A metaphor for 60m racist terrorists threatening violence through the Union on 5m innocent Scots. Don't you love how nationalism works ?

Not really got much to do with nationalism.

If the wee girl was holding a Union flag and the two twats were holding SNP flags then it would be front page news in the Scottish papers today.

"Little girl stands firm in the face of nationalist threat" or similar would be the headline. There won't be anything in the msm to do with this photo though.

That was my point in posting it.

Yesterday the BBC toady posted the headline "chaos on the streets of Glasgow" claiming Labour leader Jim Murphy and Eddie Izard were attacked by Scottish nationalists. The truth was that four independence supporters who have denied any connection to the SNP were causing a bit of a commotion at Murphy's rally of Labour supporters and journalists. The only physical violence came from Murphy's minders pushing the demonstrators away. The BBC reported Eddie Izard saying violence was unacceptable clearly implying that it was the independence supporters fault.

That was just yesterday. Every single day the msm and BBC post similar lies.

The photo of the wee girl is a fantastic symbol of our peaceful struggle against the unionist organisations hell bent on keeping us down no matter what.

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Nice one lol!

Actually, the population of Britain is what 60-70m ? Scotland 5m ? If you could post a picture of 12 blokes, preferably hard-core loyalist terrorist types throttling a nice little girl in tartan then you could claim its just an image based on concrete fact and really galvanise nationalism !

No pictures I'm afraid... will you cope?

http://www.thenational.scot/news/party-activist-trapped-as-glasgow-snp-office-is-attacked-by-a-gang-of-thugs.2557

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I've found my life infinitely better since I stopped reading and caring about what newspapers write, their primary purpose is to make money, not to inform you unbiasedly, and many newspaper execs treat their papers as a mouthpiece for broadcasting and constantly reinforcing their personal opinions.

To me the voters of Scotland are the least oppressed of any of our nations and are playing a blinder in promoting their interests. By overwhelmingly threatening to leave (that's how I interpret the massive numbers of SNP Councillors, MSP, MPs when that is the SNP's primary policy) and then rejecting leaving at the referredum they have won the best of both world with extra freedoms and money the Government level, but only subject to the same tax system as me as someone 'from' England.

I believe in any group of peoples right of self determination, though I am puzzled in Scotland's case as it doesn't feel like their is some sort oppression in place against them (quite the opposite in my eyes), but each to their own. All I ask is for Scottish nationalists to spare a thought for the rest of us and recognise that if you feel you are oppressed, it isn't England oppressing you, but Westminster Elites, and most of England feels the same as yourselves towards them. The challenge Scotland will have should it gain indepence is that they don't simply replace Westminster Elites with Holyrood Elites.

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I've found my life infinitely better since I stopped reading and caring about what newspapers write, their primary purpose is to make money, not to inform you unbiasedly, and many newspaper execs treat their papers as a mouthpiece for broadcasting and constantly reinforcing their personal opinions.

To me the voters of Scotland are the least oppressed of any of our nations and are playing a blinder in promoting their interests. By overwhelmingly threatening to leave (that's how I interpret the massive numbers of SNP Councillors, MSP, MPs when that is the SNP's primary policy) and then rejecting leaving at the referredum they have won the best of both world with extra freedoms and money the Government level, but only subject to the same tax system as me as someone 'from' England.

I believe in any group of peoples right of self determination, though I am puzzled in Scotland's case as it doesn't feel like their is some sort oppression in place against them (quite the opposite in my eyes), but each to their own. All I ask is for Scottish nationalists to spare a thought for the rest of us and recognise that if you feel you are oppressed, it isn't England oppressing you, but Westminster Elites, and most of England feels the same as yourselves towards them. The challenge Scotland will have should it gain indepence is that they don't simply replace Westminster Elites with Holyrood Elites.

Well - hence the need to inflame the fantasy with threads such as this. They're only showing the 'truth' mind !

Nothing new though - Reactionary grievance is a plague around Europe generally.

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I've found my life infinitely better since I stopped reading and caring about what newspapers write, their primary purpose is to make money, not to inform you unbiasedly, and many newspaper execs treat their papers as a mouthpiece for broadcasting and constantly reinforcing their personal opinions.

To me the voters of Scotland are the least oppressed of any of our nations and are playing a blinder in promoting their interests. By overwhelmingly threatening to leave (that's how I interpret the massive numbers of SNP Councillors, MSP, MPs when that is the SNP's primary policy) and then rejecting leaving at the referredum they have won the best of both world with extra freedoms and money the Government level, but only subject to the same tax system as me as someone 'from' England.

I believe in any group of peoples right of self determination, though I am puzzled in Scotland's case as it doesn't feel like their is some sort oppression in place against them (quite the opposite in my eyes), but each to their own. All I ask is for Scottish nationalists to spare a thought for the rest of us and recognise that if you feel you are oppressed, it isn't England oppressing you, but Westminster Elites, and most of England feels the same as yourselves towards them. The challenge Scotland will have should it gain indepence is that they don't simply replace Westminster Elites with Holyrood Elites.

The Scottish independence movement has nothing against normal English people at all. As you say it is the establishment we are trying to break free from. It is just very difficult to have our voice heard when all the media outlets are so obviously biased against us.

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Well - hence the need to inflame the fantasy with threads such as this. They're only showing the 'truth' mind !

Nothing new though - Reactionary grievance is a plague around Europe generally.

Which fantasy do you speak of?

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The fact that the SNP support has swelled in Glasgow is quite a sea change, I voted SNP the last time I voted, pre-devolution ( and living in Glasgow) and it really was a vote for a minority party then, their hard core support was probably in the Highlands at that time?

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I've found my life infinitely better since I stopped reading and caring about what newspapers write, their primary purpose is to make money, not to inform you unbiasedly, and many newspaper execs treat their papers as a mouthpiece for broadcasting and constantly reinforcing their personal opinions.

To me the voters of Scotland are the least oppressed of any of our nations and are playing a blinder in promoting their interests. By overwhelmingly threatening to leave (that's how I interpret the massive numbers of SNP Councillors, MSP, MPs when that is the SNP's primary policy) and then rejecting leaving at the referredum they have won the best of both world with extra freedoms and money the Government level, but only subject to the same tax system as me as someone 'from' England.

I believe in any group of peoples right of self determination, though I am puzzled in Scotland's case as it doesn't feel like their is some sort oppression in place against them (quite the opposite in my eyes), but each to their own. All I ask is for Scottish nationalists to spare a thought for the rest of us and recognise that if you feel you are oppressed, it isn't England oppressing you, but Westminster Elites, and most of England feels the same as yourselves towards them. The challenge Scotland will have should it gain indepence is that they don't simply replace Westminster Elites with Holyrood Elites.

I find I am often puzzled by the aggressive tone taken by non-Scots when discussing the SNP. Those that profess to being anti-establishment, calling to bring down the old-boys system, when shown that many Scots want to do exactly that, end up using the same language of those 'oppressors' they rail against.....

Most supporters of independence are NOT anti the rUK (there are more than two countries in the UK), and most definitely not anti-English. I am dismayed when those that wish to celebrate England are tarred with the 'xenophobe' brush. Taking stark figures, England has given so much more than either of the three other countries in the UK, and yet when a labour MP posts a picture of the George Cross hanging from a window, the reaction from fellow Englishmen and women is horrendous. What has went wrong?

We do care for the rUK, North of the Watford gap, and those in London who do not benefit from Westminster and the City, but I can't see any other viable option that challenges the status quo than the SNP?

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The fact that the SNP support has swelled in Glasgow is quite a sea change, I voted SNP the last time I voted, pre-devolution ( and living in Glasgow) and it really was a vote for a minority party then, their hard core support was probably in the Highlands at that time?

Given the divide in that city, there is always the chance of violence, regardless of the subject under 'discussion'!

Dundee used to be solid labour, there's a fair chance that we will get 2x MP's this time around...

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I find I am often puzzled by the aggressive tone taken by non-Scots when discussing the SNP. Those that profess to being anti-establishment, calling to bring down the old-boys system, when shown that many Scots want to do exactly that, end up using the same language of those 'oppressors' they rail against.....

Most supporters of independence are NOT anti the rUK (there are more than two countries in the UK), and most definitely not anti-English. I am dismayed when those that wish to celebrate England are tarred with the 'xenophobe' brush. Taking stark figures, England has given so much more than either of the three other countries in the UK, and yet when a labour MP posts a picture of the George Cross hanging from a window, the reaction from fellow Englishmen and women is horrendous. What has went wrong?

We do care for the rUK, North of the Watford gap, and those in London who do not benefit from Westminster and the City, but I can't see any other viable option that challenges the status quo than the SNP?

The change I would have liked to have seen was Proportional Representation at the General Election, but sadly that referedum was rejected by the British public. I even like some of the SNP's policies (scraping trident for example).

Your point about the St Georges cross is bang on the money. I get very worried these days how the word 'racist' (an extremely serious word in my mind) seems to be devalued and used against (generally right wing) policies and parties that people may not agree with, but aren't racist. Indeed some of the policies laughably described as racist already exist in countries like Switerzland and Australia.

For me, I'm probably a bit too cynical about it all. I think the real winners of Scottish independence would be the lawyers, bankers and accountants. It also wouldn't surprise me that voices from the Highlands and Islands about those greedy and oppresive city folk in Glasgow and Edinburgh started a decade or two after independence, maybe it's human nature?

I feel more devolution along the lines of what Switerzland has would be my proposed way, with the voters being able to force referedum's if they got sufficient interest i.e. decentralising the power base.

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The change I would have liked to have seen was Proportional Representation at the General Election, but sadly that referedum was rejected by the British public. I even like some of the SNP's policies (scraping trident for example).

Your point about the St Georges cross is bang on the money. I get very worried these days how the word 'racist' (an extremely serious word in my mind) seems to be devalued and used against (generally right wing) policies and parties that people may not agree with, but aren't racist. Indeed some of the policies laughably described as racist already exist in countries like Switerzland and Australia.

For me, I'm probably a bit too cynical about it all. I think the real winners of Scottish independence would be the lawyers, bankers and accountants. It also wouldn't surprise me that voices from the Highlands and Islands about those greedy and oppresive city folk in Glasgow and Edinburgh started a decade or two after independence, maybe it's human nature?

I feel more devolution along the lines of what Switerzland has would be my proposed way, with the voters being able to force referedum's if they got sufficient interest i.e. decentralising the power base.

Doh! The St. Georges cross! My apologies, the George Cross is an entirely different thing!

I've said it before, if Cameron had two brain cells to rub together he would have left Devo Max on the referendum paper. It would have killed the yes vote stone dead. But he doesn't, he's an idiot, and now people like myself can smell blood!

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