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Have The Tories Just Realised

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He's a particularly slippery character Cameron, of course, surrounded by spivs and cokeheads.

The nonsense today is beyond ridiculous. A week is a long time in politics, let alone five years. Events...

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Seems to me that boomers are voting tory and liebour are hoping that the youth will vote for them.

Meanwhile no one is voting for Jim Murphy, saw him on Scottish TV tonight, he looked like someone who just lost his last appeal for the electric chair.

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I believe Ed

He was really honest with Russell Brand and they talk the same 'n stuff

Yayyy Labour

In the 60's 70's it was thought a labour government was ok with a local Conservative council to minimise the Gay outreach workers and Haringay says no to Nuclear weapons Officers.

I can see the same result next week.

In reality with technology and globalisation there is little any government can do to radically alter tax and corp tax etc. So the horrible little red spiteful middle class socialists can do nothing to radically affect that.

I don't like any of them as people but deep down the left have always been the party of hate and spiteful envy which is rich coming from a guy who lives in a £2.7 million house and has never lifted so much as a screwdriver.

UKIP seem to speak for the working man but are a little immature as a party and the stupid working class proles believe anything their comic of choice tells them

So actually there will be a class war if Labour gets in and ultimately the working man and woman would of voted for it so when their I have you in the cross hairs PAYE goes up whilst I claim for that curry on Saturday night as subsistence, they deserve all they voted for.

Whats forgotten is that:

The basic Tax allowance has gone up massively

Everyone will have had effectively a 3% pay increase when we as employers have to start compulsory paying into our staff's pension schemes

The majority of people kept their job through an unbelievably deep recession

The Coalition made some proper decisions on benefits and child allowance

I have a lot more faith in the young many are doing fine and I don't think that vote is in the bag for labour, we employ lots of youngsters and they are thinking intelligent people and surprisingly conservative with a small c.

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Meanwhile no one is voting for Jim Murphy, saw him on Scottish TV tonight, he looked like someone who just lost his last appeal for the electric chair.

The Beeb said that on current polling not a single Labourite will be left in Scotland.

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The Beeb said that on current polling not a single Labourite will be left in Scotland.

There would be a poetic justice in that. Their motives for an independent body were about screwing the Tories.

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I have a lot more faith in the young many are doing fine and I don't think that vote is in the bag for labour, we employ lots of youngsters and they are thinking intelligent people and surprisingly conservative with a small c.

The Conservative party isn't small c conservative and is actually the use-taxpayer-cash-to-buy-pensioner-votes and artificially-pump-up-house-prices party. You're right, many young people are pretty switched on, and they can see what the Conservative party has become.

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I believe Ed

He was really honest with Russell Brand and they talk the same 'n stuff

Yayyy Labour

The Sun aren't backing Labour - Ed stood up to Murdoch. Credit to Ed, he feels he's got nothing to lose and will talk to anyone.

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The Beeb said that on current polling not a single Labourite will be left in Scotland.

Supposing Dave turns around after the election and states "well since Scotland's MP s are now nearly all nationalist SNP, I reluctantly see no alternative but to grant full independence. I have just spoken to their leader who has agreed to vote for our government in Westminster until the process has been completed.." ?

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I have a lot more faith in the young many are doing fine and I don't think that vote is in the bag for labour, we employ lots of youngsters and they are thinking intelligent people and surprisingly conservative with a small c.

Labour going after the renters this week is, in my view, a sign that they realise that the young are not going to be voting for them. They ain't getting the boomers and they ain't getting the late teens / early 20s.... so hence why they came out with a house agenda for the people between the young and the old.

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I gave up posting on the main boards with stuff like this, because I couldn't be bothered any more but I'll make an exception this time..

The Conservative campaign seems to be entirely based on the ethos that Labour f***ed up the economy and cannot be trusted with it, and there is plenty of evidence that this is historically what Labour always do every time they are in power.

But, while it went wrong on Labour's watch, I don't imagine it would have been any different under the Conservatives. (John Redwood: "there is no need to regulate the mortgage industry. If it fails, only the lenders would be affected" - moron). The overspend to buy votes, and inflate model is tried and tested. The deregulation of the City happened under Reagan/Thatcher which is in part why we are where we are with a broken monetary system and horrific misallocation of money, in a system which will only pump and crash in waves which will get closer and closer together until it fails altogether.

Because with globalisation and a more open economy which oddly enough Blair championed greatly, even if you have your own currency and you didn't go the way of those silly EU countries, so you can manipulate it, doing so requires financial repression which does not in the end benefit those in the country itself. This is what is being tested.

All parties are slaves to the system and so voting is a decision based on which party you think can fudge the money best - and the Conservatives and Labour both followed the same model of pimping debt. It is the only workable model within the system we have. I think that the outright failure of sterling is inevitable in the end. No party will stop us going over the brink. The Green Party might bring that closer and deal with it earlier, perhaps.

I'm for a small state and minimal taxation, and there is no party to vote for, so I'll be voting for 'none of the above' because there are no parties which represent me. UKIP and the Green Party would simply be too dangerous to contemplate.

Certainly a lot of Conservative ex voters see UKIP as some sort of new dawn, the next Thatcher, and plenty of die-hard Labour supporters especially poor people still have tribalism towards Labour despite the fact that their immigration policies shat all over those same poor people. I despair.

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Certainly a lot of Conservative ex voters see UKIP as some sort of new dawn, the next Thatcher, and plenty of die-hard Labour supporters especially poor people still have tribalism towards Labour despite the fact that their immigration policies shat all over those same poor people. I despair.

About as neat a summation of what has happened to the traditional power base of the tories/labourt as I've read anywhere

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None of them have the answer. Because some of the answers involve stripping pensions off the richest pensioners this country will ever see, and that's not allowed. Gold plated pensions for those who have them. The vast majority of pensions aren't worth the bother as they instantly stop you getting any state support and you pay tax.

None of them want to solve the housing situation. Because stripping the value of assets off those who have them is wrong because the number of people who've done well out of it is so high.

None of them are brave enough to ask the question why with such good universities we are unable to prove enough staff for the NHS and have to steal from abroad.

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Tories complain about Labours disaster last time, and have spent the last five years making it worse.

Im learning Greek on Duolingo.

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Tories complain about Labours disaster last time, and have spent the last five years making it worse.

Im learning Greek on Duolingo.

Did you watch the victoria celeb thing this week? Very interesting to see how our definitions of poverty has changed :)

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None of them have the answer. Because some of the answers involve stripping pensions off the richest pensioners this country will ever see, and that's not allowed. Gold plated pensions for those who have them. The vast majority of pensions aren't worth the bother as they instantly stop you getting any state support and you pay tax.

None of them want to solve the housing situation. Because stripping the value of assets off those who have them is wrong because the number of people who've done well out of it is so high.

None of them are brave enough to ask the question why with such good universities we are unable to prove enough staff for the NHS and have to steal from abroad.

And the public doesn't seem to be asking why most pensions are worthless. We used to have one of the best pension regimes in the world but succesive tory and labour government tax grabs have destroyed it.

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Supposing Dave turns around after the election and states "well since Scotland's MP s are now nearly all nationalist SNP, I reluctantly see no alternative but to grant full independence. I have just spoken to their leader who has agreed to vote for our government in Westminster until the process has been completed.." ?

Very interesting idea. However Dave has been a bit thick in the past, like screwing the Liberals over so he then didn't get his boundary changes. I guess it depends on whether he thinks being PM for the next 5 years is a good thing for his legacy. He'll have a good view on the economic situation.

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The Pin Party vows to cut the cable on all politicians' microphones. If I wanted to hear lies, I could just listen to my ex-wife!

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