Executive Sadman Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/je-suis-billy-boy-free-speech-for-football-fans/16774#.VT_8DCFVikr The stuff of nightmares. Thankfully the judges didnt fall into the trap of blaming the rioting hooligans for being rioting hooligans (a bit difficult, as there were no rioting hooligans) but the individual singing who is undeniably a Hitler in waiting. I feel so very much safer with the SNP passing these laws which are absolutely not an abuse of state power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 "Hell is the impossibility of Reason." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 A ridiculous waste of time. The police and courts should be pursuing wolf-whistling builders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XswampyX Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Well I don't! I tell ya, we are under attack. For what ever reason they don't want 'normal' people to be out in the wild, contaminating people. With their 'normal' rules. Remember when you were in pre-school and that little boy was always playing with his willy? Yeah me too! Well why did he stop? Was it because they outlawed anybody mentioning it at any time, didn't reprimand him and let him continue playing with it? No of course not. All the kids took the pi$$ and he stopped the next day. What's wrong with knowing a bit about your history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Well I don't! I tell ya, we are under attack. For what ever reason they don't want 'normal' people to be out in the wild, contaminating people. With their 'normal' rules. Remember when you were in pre-school and that little boy was always playing with his willy? Yeah me too! Well why did he stop? Was it because they outlawed anybody mentioning it at any time, didn't reprimand him and let him continue playing with it? No of course not. All the kids took the pi$$ and he stopped the next day. What's wrong with knowing a bit about your history... For the record, yes I did stop, but the mockery permanently traumatised me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XswampyX Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 For the record, yes I did stop, but the mockery permanently traumatised me. It was only a little thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 It was only a little thing! It's OK, I developed a coping mechanism. I started playing with it again a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XswampyX Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Too much information! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/je-suis-billy-boy-free-speech-for-football-fans/16774#.VT_8DCFVikr The stuff of nightmares. Thankfully the judges didnt fall into the trap of blaming the rioting hooligans for being rioting hooligans (a bit difficult, as there were no rioting hooligans) but the individual singing who is undeniably a Hitler in waiting. I feel so very much safer with the SNP passing these laws which are absolutely not an abuse of state power. I would have said these songs amount to incitement to hate crimes. They're already outlawed in Northern Ireland. Whether they're worthy of prison is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I would have said these songs amount to incitement to hate crimes. They're already outlawed in Northern Ireland. Whether they're worthy of prison is a different matter. Whoops! Wonder if my choir might be in danger of being banged up? We're going to perform Handel's Israel in Egypt, which glorifies a truly biblical god. That is, not the cuddly, forgiving God of Constantine or the Church of England, but the bloodthirsty one of events like the Crusades, Inquisition and Holocaust. One who not merely practices genocide, but revels in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Whoops! Wonder if my choir might be in danger of being banged up? We're going to perform Handel's Israel in Egypt, which glorifies a truly biblical god. That is, not the cuddly, forgiving God of Constantine or the Church of England, but the bloodthirsty one of events like the Crusades, Inquisition and Holocaust. One who not merely practices genocide, but revels in it. Maybe only 3 months then. What about No Surrender then? I've sung that at football games; maybe I should turn myself in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 I would have said these songs amount to incitement to hate crimes. They're already outlawed in Northern Ireland. Whether they're worthy of prison is a different matter. Start stigmatizing mere words as reason for violence, and you start getting the great unwashed thinking 'he insulted me, i'll beat the crap out of him' Two in recent months...More than there have been racist murders in the same period. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3004807/Boy-16-killed-teenager-thought-Gangnam-Style-dancing-racist-jailed-eight-months.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059485/Pensioner-died-stroke-yobs-kicked-beat-badly-baseball-bats-legs-amputated.html It is believed the victim had been targeted in a case of mistaken identities by the gang who were seeking vengeance for alleged racial abuse. Someone said nasty things about my nation/culture/religion/skin colour....boo hoo hoo. They must die. Cry me a bloody river, precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinker Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I would have said these songs amount to incitement to hate crimes. They're already outlawed in Northern Ireland. Whether they're worthy of prison is a different matter. "Islamaphobia" is soon to join the ever-expanding group of hate crimes: http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/newspaper/top-stories/labour-to-outlaw-islamophobia-says-miliband-in-an-exclusive-interview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 There's even some talk in that article about making it an offence to aggressively genuflect. How exactly is that possible? I try to take some comfort from history in all this lunacy. According to Mackay's 'Extraordinary Popular Delusions', the witch-mania of the seventeenth century finally fizzled out because a. the accusers realised that they themselves were at risk from the laws they were enforcing and b. there simply wasn't the time or the manpower to enforce the numerous laws against witchcraft. Hopefully something similar will happen with all this pc thoughtcrime nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 How about banning the national anthem. I'd vote for that. Utter drivel. Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush And like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save the King That one gets brought up every now and then despite not actually being part of the National Anthem any more.I'd just get rid of it because it's a dreary dirge that isn't even about the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 That one gets brought up every now and then despite not actually being part of the National Anthem any more. I'd just get rid of it because it's a dreary dirge that isn't even about the country. Yep, dreadful creaky old song to have as a national anthem. Very hard to sing it with any pride unlike the far more rousing Rule Britannia, Land of Hope and Glory, Jerusalem and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yep, dreadful creaky old song to have as a national anthem. Very hard to sing it with any pride unlike the far more rousing Rule Britannia, Land of Hope and Glory, Jerusalem and many others.All much better songs. Jerusalem is probably my favourite but is England and not the UK (and a title that's a city in a copmpletely different country seems rather odd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 That one gets brought up every now and then despite not actually being part of the National Anthem any more. I'd just get rid of it because it's a dreary dirge that isn't even about the country. The sovereign is the figurehead of the state, so in a sense it is about the country. I agree about the dirge, but that's because it's usually played too slowly and sung flat. Any attempt to bring in a new national anthem would be so fraught with political correctness and political squabbling it would make the Scottish independence referendum look like a picnic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 That one gets brought up every now and then despite not actually being part of the National Anthem any more. I'd just get rid of it because it's a dreary dirge that isn't even about the country. Looking at current politics, I guess the general wasn't too successful. ?. At least, not with this rebellious Scot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 All much better songs. Jerusalem is probably my favourite but is England and not the UK (and a title that's a city in a copmpletely different country seems rather odd). Did you ever look at the words? Try sometime. Watch the irony of Blake's bitter words[1] whooshing over the head of Hubris Parry's bombastic setting. A bit like US Republicans adopting Woody Guthrie's anthem for their triumphalist rallies, though I believe they omit the more pointedly critical verses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well it's on youtube, (cannot paste link for some reason) so the judge had better get busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 That one gets brought up every now and then despite not actually being part of the National Anthem any more. I'm not sure that was ever officially part of the anthem, it's just one of several additional verses that were written by various people at various times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Did you ever look at the words?Yep, they seem to be saying "We're making a mess of it but let's aspire to something better because there's something fundamentally worthwhile there." Even more appropriate now than then IMO. I suppose you could argue he was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuG III Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Did you ever look at the words? Try sometime. Watch the irony of Blake's bitter words[1] whooshing over the head of Hubris Parry's bombastic setting. A bit like US Republicans adopting Woody Guthrie's anthem for their triumphalist rallies, though I believe they omit the more pointedly critical verses. I like the words. OK Jerusalem just needs to be taken as a metaphor for utopia, but I like the fact that it urges people to struggle to lift our country from distopia to utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I would have said these songs amount to incitement to hate crimes. They're already outlawed in Northern Ireland. Whether they're worthy of prison is a different matter. I agree, including the point about imprisonment being perhaps over the top. I don't think people living outside central Scotland appreciate the sheer nastiness associated with this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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