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Protesters storm town hall and smashed the window of Foxtons :lol: following an anti-gentrification demonstration today. People don't seem too pleased about rising rents, evictions and gentrification of Brixton.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/25/reclaim-brixton-foxtons-lambeth-town-hall_n_7143102.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk

Summer of discontent if Cameron gets re-elected?

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Come come now this is a local area for local people.

Seriously, I bet these same protesters are all for open immigration and the human right of free movement. Just as long as it doesn't affect their own lives.

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Come come now this is a local area for local people.

Seriously, I bet these same protesters are all for open immigration and the human right of free movement. Just as long as it doesn't affect their own lives.

This.

Many many times I see those most vocal against development/extra costs for them personally to be most in favour of mass immigration and increased public services. The magic money tree is alive and well in crustyland.

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I always remember the riots in the 80's when I was at school, about half a dozen flash points in the country. When I hear the name I think riots.

It's going to get worse, we are in much worse shape than ever before.

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"Culture: the cry of men in face of their destiny." - Albert Camus

Brixton was a pretty affluent middle class area when it was built in the late 19th century, then it became a much poorer area in the mid-20th century which made it affordable to waves of immigrants like the West Indians, now the middle classes are moving in again.

Change happens and nobody has the right to stop somebody else from peacefully living their lives. These protesters are just another kind of NIMBY.

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"Culture: the cry of men in face of their destiny." - Albert Camus

Brixton was a pretty affluent middle class area when it was built in the late 19th century, then it became a much poorer area in the mid-20th century which made it affordable to waves of immigrants like the West Indians, now the middle classes are moving in again.

Change happens and nobody has the right to stop somebody else from peacefully living their lives. These protesters are just another kind of NIMBY.

Indeed, but it's another symptom of division. How can we live together when we're constantly set against each other?

It's good to see Brixton still has a little bit of riot in it. Sometimes you've just got sit back and accept it, other times you have to smash the place up a bit!

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There's money to be made for those with the money so whilst conservatives or new labour are in power this will continue unabated. Is there any party I can vote for that genuinely represents the people? Is this how national socialism started?

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Had you noticed that the SNP is in fact a national socialist party?

It is the natural form to come out of devolution. People desperate to vote for someone who will represent the majority's interests in that locale.

I've predicted the rise of extremist parties for a while now. UKip is the start, acceptable side of it. What are people meant to do when the politicians are all clearly supporting the 1% instead of the 99%

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There's money to be made for those with the money so whilst conservatives or new labour are in power this will continue unabated. Is there any party I can vote for that genuinely represents the people? Is this how national socialism started?

It's already starting.

As hotairmail said the SNP has some national socialism tendencies.

I don't trust UKIP as I suspect some of their core vote has national socialist tendencies (I'm no fan of Farage but I don't think he has as he's really just an anti-EU Tory), to get the Labour vote they will have to have more socialist policies, then there are the some of DM/DE-reading UKIP voters... Unfortunately Farage has been far too keen to single-out scapegoats that are to blame for our ills (hmm wonder what his wife's family got up to during WW2) in particular anything to do with the EU, and in so doin deflect attention from the real causes.

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If TPTB had any sense they would legalise cannabis STAT. Might put lid on things for another 20 years as everyone sits around stoned and giggling.

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It's too late surely?

A flat in Brixton costs an average of £392,603, according to RightMove.

What I want to know is where all the 'gentry' are coming from, and where did they get the cash?

Edited by irrationalactor

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What you expect of Brixton housing protests...working class poor blacks.

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The reality..mostly white.middle class students whose parents probably have BTL portfolios.

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Why is this an issue? Better that people are out protesting than sitting around on a forum :P moaning about the price of houses and rents!

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Streatham

Nope. That's expensive and gentrified these days too.

I think the idea is that the existing poor relocate to Birmingham, and the new wave of immigrants commute in and out from their sheds in the outer suburbs.

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Why is this an issue? Better that people are out protesting than sitting around on a forum :P moaning about the price of houses and rents!

Students are supposed to be on the breadline...its meant to teach budgeting and deffered gratification!

Just dont see many people trying to raise families there...just the usual people who'd protest anything if it involved smashing some windows.

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People don't seem too pleased about rising rents, evictions and gentrification of Brixton.
middle class students whose parents probably have BTL portfolios.

A bit of 'house price / rent / housing policy resistance' is a good thing - even when their parents are HPI mad landlords who rode the bubble - it offers some real hope for change (quote below). I mean that's pure HPC that is, from the children of the landlord. Pure. (As I understand it, the mother and father own many 10s of properties, acquired from early 90s - millionaires in equity - one of the big PropertyTribe 'success stories'.)

Unlike here where so many people expect the landlords/other market participants to volunteer to HPC for the good of wider society - via 'softly softly hpc education decades' - instead of the reality that majority of housing VI ruthlessly protect their own VI)

26-08-2014

AB
RE: Is Generation Rent here to stay... and is that a bad thing?

I am very interested in this question, especially since my 25 year old daughter xxxxxxxx and her partner expressed their thoughts on the subject when they came to stay for a few days over the bank holiday...

Despite the fact we recently gave xxxxxxx her pay-out from a Trust we set up (being not an insubstantial sum) her and her partner work and live in central Cambridge. She earns a modest amount (but has a 1st class honours degree in Chemistry) and he's a PhD student, so they would still struggle to buy and would have to tighten their belts and continue saving first. (We have offered more money but she refuses it!)

Their thoughts go something like this:

"Why should we bother to scrimp and save and make financial sacrifices to try and buy somewhere, when prices are ridiculously high already and we have read some things saying they could crash again...

"Besides, most of our friends who are our age can't afford to buy, so we figure that the government is going to have to 'do something about it' when our whole generation gets old and has no property assets to pay for our care home if we need it... They'll have to do something!"

"Also, we don't know where we want to settle... Once H has finished his PhD, we don't know where he'll end up working, so it's not worth the expense of buying when we might have to move in a few years anyway."

"Besides, we like travelling and want to enjoy life, not become slaves to buying property!"

They also pointed out that they would probably pay as much for a mortgage as the rent they're paying (because it'd have to be capital plus interest repayment) and if the interest rate goes up they'd be "stuffed!"

I was quite taken aback... I can't believe this was my daughter speaking, when property investing has been her parents' life and good fortune!!

This really made it strike me how differently Generation Rent think!
JC

I am assuming your daughter grew up during the same period that her parents built their 'property empire'. I would expect some things rubbed off and she might be one of the more balanced members of her generation when it comes to renting vs. buying.

Sort of interesting how your daughter's views are grounded in opinion rather than science or even simple math. Given her university studies I would expect a semblance or scientific rigour rather than mob logic.

I do expect the student's belief that the government is responsible as that is the history of university education. Big brother sorts it and you just focus on your studies between pints.

Anyway, not to make this all that personal,...

I am hoping that Adam and I can have a wide ranging debate where some real issues are highlighted. I do not expect solutions from one webinar. It would be nice if we can agree on some of the main issues that can be researched or tackled later.

http://www.propertytribes.com/generation-rent-here-stay-that-bad-thing-t-12139.html
Edited by Venger

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Sort of interesting how your daughter's views are grounded in opinion rather than science or even simple math. Given her university studies I would expect a semblance or scientific rigour rather than mob logic.

It's not that surprising when people studying that sort of subject are fed the line that there's a shortage in the UK and that employers are desperate for those type of skills.

Then the reality. Flipping burgers?

So when the science, the propaganda, the policies, the policy reneging and the house price maths all don't add up what's left.

Edited by billybong

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There has been a few protests about property recently.

Surely the 1% are getting a bit nervous. they must surely know what a poor angry young population can do when thaw have nothing to loose

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Bloody Gentry coming over here and ruining the neighbourhood.

And lastly, the good news story of the day....

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This image fills me with hope.

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