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Strange HPC topic perhaps but I know ChumpusRex is medical and there are some clever sods on here so...

If a chap gets 'the snip', why is a reversal needed rather than just extracting the sperm using a needle or similar minor op?

Apparently reversal is not a minor op.

The things you end up thinking about as you get older...

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Don't the little chaps need to 'come out' for a while, and then they return to normal?

Anyway $hagging you missus every day != Turkey baster up the quim. :lol:

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I refuse to have one, especially after reading how difficult it can be to reverse and that a woman doctor who specialised in them doesn't like doing them because of the numbers who change their mind especially when they split with the current partner. I seem to think she'd stopped doing them.

I seem to recall reading in the article something along the lines that to reconnect the tube the length is obviously shortened, this may cause some fertility issues as the sperm may not mature enough during the journey from the testes. So the op to reconnect may be successful but the sperm aren't mature enough when ejaculated to fertilise an egg.

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Oh it's more a curious question - don't have kids, don't want any.

Reading the deluded old scrapper birds thread reminded me i'm getting to the age where their nesting instinct comes in, and the single guy with a house and job pushes all the right buttons.

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My advice is -don't do it, i had it done and lead to painful complications, its sorted out now but it was a major component in my divorce, e.g. my missus bullied me into it in the first place.

after the inevitable split from missus it the had a serious effect on dating afterwards (i felt i had to be honest at the start). tbh i didnt really want any more kids ( have two already) but to my own surprise i felt that if i met the right person etc

now it doesnt matter as my new partner is past the age now really anyway. but my view is that it was a big mistake and we should have just stuck with the conventional methods.

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Thanks for the personal anecdote debtlessmanc (That reads really sarcastically but I am being sincere) :)

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I refuse to have one, especially after reading how difficult it can be to reverse and that a woman doctor who specialised in them doesn't like doing them because of the numbers who change their mind especially when they split with the current partner. I seem to think she'd stopped doing them.

I seem to recall reading in the article something along the lines that to reconnect the tube the length is obviously shortened, this may cause some fertility issues as the sperm may not mature enough during the journey from the testes. So the op to reconnect may be successful but the sperm aren't mature enough when ejaculated to fertilise an egg.

Are you kidding? reversals are where they make the serious money - so much so that with some private docs the original op is often discounted as a "teaser".

Incidentally, (and anecdotally - I'm still intact), if you're contemplating (being bullied into) doing it on the promise of "more sex", disabuse yourself of that notion. I've read of more than one case where the sex entirely dried up post-op, for reasons attributing to female psychology.

My brother also reported chronic ball pain for years following his (The literature suggests that approximately 20% of men will have “chronic pain” 3 months or more after the procedure).

no thanks.

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I thought I'd seen a thread already but the search function came up with nothing.

I can categorically state I do not want kids at any point now or in the future. (The original post was just an idle thought as I've been doing some Googling)

The only thing that concerns me is any side effects.

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Are you kidding? reversals are where they make the serious money - so much so that with some private docs the original op is often discounted as a "teaser".

Incidentally, (and anecdotally - I'm still intact), if you're contemplating (being bullied into) doing it on the promise of "more sex", disabuse yourself of that notion. I've read of more than one case where the sex entirely dried up post-op, for reasons attributing to female psychology.

My brother also reported chronic ball pain for years following his (The literature suggests that approximately 20% of men will have “chronic pain” 3 months or more after the procedure).

no thanks.

indeed that was pretty much the score...

wish someone had warned me about it. i hated my ex from then on and looking back on it divorce was pretty much inevitable.

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tbh for whatever reason we both lost all interest in each other more or less immediately, although my ex claimed that it was the fear of pregnancy.

after we seperated i stayed with my then boss and new wife - he was divorced. Almost the first thing he said to me was "my ex-wife wanted kids but not a husband" almost instantly i realised the problem i had had for 18 years...

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There is some evidence that women lose interest in a partner who has had a vasectomy. I recall reading some figures on divorce rates of men who have had vasectomies. Also have read lots of stuff about men whose wives wanted them to have vasectomies and then, once snipped, the wives lost interest in sex or divorced soon after.

I think it works on some subconcious evolutionary process with women that, of course, you could never have a rational conversationn about with most women.

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I actually promised my wife more sex after a vasectomy.

I have 2 kids, and at the time I was certain I didn't want more. Now I'm not so sure, but I daren't tell my wife!

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There is some evidence that women lose interest in a partner who has had a vasectomy. I recall reading some figures on divorce rates of men who have had vasectomies. Also have read lots of stuff about men whose wives wanted them to have vasectomies and then, once snipped, the wives lost interest in sex or divorced soon after.

I think it works on some subconcious evolutionary process with women that, of course, you could never have a rational conversationn about with most women.

Symbolic castration?

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I am sure I mentioned before on the previous snip chat - but there must be blokes out there with the snip who haven't told their burds - only for them to come out one day with "darling I'm pregnant !!"

That would be an interesting conversation :)

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There is some evidence that women lose interest in a partner who has had a vasectomy. I recall reading some figures on divorce rates of men who have had vasectomies. Also have read lots of stuff about men whose wives wanted them to have vasectomies and then, once snipped, the wives lost interest in sex or divorced soon after.

I think it works on some subconcious evolutionary process with women that, of course, you could never have a rational conversationn about with most women.

lesbian couples also have kids....it is what life is all about ultimately.

Lesbians of course know they are naturally infertile...so they seek sperm elsewhere...a hetero woman cant really seek sperm elsewhere without breaking her personal vow with her partner, although that doesnt seem to matter to a good part of the population.

Thus, as nature endows us with a subtle, and sometimes not so subtle imperitive urge, the fact of a male becoming unfertile MUST have an effect at some level, just as women who reach menopause arent going to be on page 3 as the most attractive of either sex are young and fertile, or pretend to be.

Society is what makes people fearful of pregnancy, not nature. Society dictates that we are not part of nature and takes great steps to hide that we are.

Man is the creator of course...he produces new fresh sperm every second of his life...women are born with their seed...try having THAT conversation.

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Years ago I heard (or read?) that having a vasectomy can age a mans face a lot. Any truth to this?

sort of unprovable as the man will age regardless of the snip.

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There is some evidence that women lose interest in a partner who has had a vasectomy. I recall reading some figures on divorce rates of men who have had vasectomies. Also have read lots of stuff about men whose wives wanted them to have vasectomies and then, once snipped, the wives lost interest in sex or divorced soon after.

I think it works on some subconcious evolutionary process with women that, of course, you could never have a rational conversationn about with most women.

It seems so obvious that I didn't think I would have to point it out, but here it is:

Of COURSE I would not tell a deluded scrapper bird I wanted some fun with that I had the snip!!! :D If it went the distance I'd tell her eventually, but my opinion on having kids would remain the same. If she left, the cycle would repeat.

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