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was sceptical but it was actually pretty good.

Farage won in the after polls and was the best on stage as you would expect.

Heard he had a couple of G&T's before hand and did the debate on the fly unlike the heavily scripted and prepared others.

Goid question from a young student about living standards for this generation being lower than the last / house prices etc

Cameron not wasting an oportunity to promote help to buy.

Interesting all 7 acknowledged that yes this generation will have a lower living standard than the last.

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My tuppence worth - Clegg`s "rent to buy" spiel was beyond parody, how does this guy sleep at night? Miliband is the best bet for full economic meltdown, he was gurning into the camera like a cartoon character on acid. Farage had the most inspiring closing message IMO, and the Ponzi dare not speak it`s name, as usual.

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Oops. Just started another thread about it. Here's my impression of each leader;

Did you watch the leaders tv debate? If so, what did you think of their performance? Not just what they said but how they came across. Give them a score from from 1 to 10, 10 being the best they can get, 1 being the worst.

Cameron = 6. He is a good orator but came across as quite aloof and not really wanting to be there. He also lied through his teeth and a lot of what he said came across as verbatim.

Plaid Cymru = 5. She seemed nice enough, a bit mumsy and robootic. Not really relevant to me in London though.

Nicola Sturgeon = 6. Good speaker, got her points across well, but also came across as a typical politician and a bit "I know best"/Thatcherlike ironically at times. A lot of what she said just sounded barmy to me and not common sense.

Ed Miliband = 3. The worst performance of the lot. Very insincere and talking like a robot and had obviously learnt a lot of his answers verbatim. Made some strange faces and gestures throughout. Not convincing as a strong personality and his answers were pretty vague and his ideas pretty basic "soundbites". Trying to clone Blair when nuLabour/Blairism is not popular. Not good.

Nigel Farage = 7. A likeable character, very good at public speaking. Gets his points across well and seems to have good rapport with the audience. Doesn't come across as just another robotic politician. However, seems obsessed with immigration and some of his points sounded very simple and narrow minded. Didn't always give credible answers regarding how problems would be resolved once immigration was reduced. One trick pony hiding behind a charismatic personality.

Nick Clegg = 6. Similar to Cameron. Comes across as very professional, versed in how to talk politics to the public. However, also came across as having learned his answers verbatim and not all that sincere although better than Cameron. Seemed slightly more humble. Didn't really say anything new though and wasn't very convincing about all the changes he was advocating.

Natalie Bennett = 7. I thought she came across really well, much better than I expected. She spoke well, seemed professional and made her points clearly. She did not come across as a completely crazy socialist, even though some of her policies are obviously insane. Made some good points and differentiated herself from the others. Seems sincere and likeable.

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Oops. Just started another thread about it. Here's my impression of each leader;

Did you watch the leaders tv debate? If so, what did you think of their performance? Not just what they said but how they came across. Give them a score from from 1 to 10, 10 being the best they can get, 1 being the worst.

Cameron = 6. He is a good orator but came across as quite aloof and not really wanting to be there. He also lied through his teeth and a lot of what he said came across as verbatim.

Plaid Cymru = 5. She seemed nice enough, a bit mumsy and robootic. Not really relevant to me in London though.

Nicola Sturgeon = 6. Good speaker, got her points across well, but also came across as a typical politician and a bit "I know best"/Thatcherlike ironically at times. A lot of what she said just sounded barmy to me and not common sense.

Ed Miliband = 3. The worst performance of the lot. Very insincere and talking like a robot and had obviously learnt a lot of his answers verbatim. Made some strange faces and gestures throughout. Not convincing as a strong personality and his answers were pretty vague and his ideas pretty basic "soundbites". Trying to clone Blair when nuLabour/Blairism is not popular. Not good.

Nigel Farage = 7. A likeable character, very good at public speaking. Gets his points across well and seems to have good rapport with the audience. Doesn't come across as just another robotic politician. However, seems obsessed with immigration and some of his points sounded very simple and narrow minded. Didn't always give credible answers regarding how problems would be resolved once immigration was reduced. One trick pony hiding behind a charismatic personality.

Nick Clegg = 6. Similar to Cameron. Comes across as very professional, versed in how to talk politics to the public. However, also came across as having learned his answers verbatim and not all that sincere although better than Cameron. Seemed slightly more humble. Didn't really say anything new though and wasn't very convincing about all the changes he was advocating.

Natalie Bennett = 7. I thought she came across really well, much better than I expected. She spoke well, seemed professional and made her points clearly. She did not come across as a completely crazy socialist, even though some of her policies are obviously insane. Made some good points and differentiated herself from the others. Seems sincere and likeable.

Clegg will be a lot more humble once the votes are counted I think. Cameron is jaded, he doesn`t have Tony`s ability to keep lying for 12 years. Miliband`s latest pet phrase is " But I`m doing something about it..." This guy is the best bet for taking the vehicle right off the cliff, and smashing it to bits on the rocks below, the only downside is that he might start a nuclear war or something by mistake.

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I only watched the fist 25 minutes but they all seemed to be ganging up on Camoron.

The Welsh women who shouldn't have been there as even the Welsh don't vote for her seemed like she was speaking at a local schools PTA meeting.

See Farage has been deemed a fanatic for not wanting to pay the £25K to Africans with HIV who manage to sneak into Britain, just shows you how out of touch these minor parties are.... and the major parties who think its acceptable.

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Apparently Glib Dave's closing remarks/key quote were


David Cameron: "I think that if we go back to the tax, the waste, the spending, the debt, all the things that got us into a mess in the first place, we wouldn't help working people. We'd hurt working people. That's what Labour did last time. And we mustn't let it happen again."

You do get a laugh as you go along.

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Ed's key quote


Ed Miliband: "I think not for the last time tonight David Cameron is going to want to talk about the past because he doesn't want to talk about the future."

That's pretty weak stuff. Why not something about how things are now as well.

Edited by billybong

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The Eton Trifle looked like he was dialing it in. If he loses he gets replaced by Boris Johnson, if he wins he gets replaced by Boris Johnson (to prevent an in-out referendum). I suspect he's just occupying himself with thoughts of foreign holidays and £250k speaking engagements now.

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Yes, he isn`t even a very convincing clown, just a bare faced liar, but not as much stamina for the job as Bliar had.

I love the fact that EA Dave doesn't actually want to be re-elected. Imagine going to a job interview and making small talk with the interviewer about how you don't want to be in the job for too long.

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I love the fact that EA Dave doesn't actually want to be re-elected. Imagine going to a job interview and making small talk with the interviewer about how you don't want to be in the job for too long.

Miliband desperately wants to be elected, and I`m starting to hope that he is... :lol:

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Farage talked the most sense by a country mile, both milliband and sturgeon contradicted their previous criticism of Farage minutes afterwards. The green leader came across as a total nutter, cloud cuckoo land material.

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The HIV NHS tourism comment by Farage was very very stupid. I should imagine that will get spun and twisted by the Tory press tomorrow (and forever until the election).

I think the SNP and Labour probably came out of that best.

Sturgeon in particular was easily the most eloquent and the strongest speaker.

The Tory campaign to smear Labour with the threat of the SNP is looking increasingly more arrogant and daft every day.

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Farage was the only straight talking politician on the programme.

The best question was asked by the young lass regarding inter-generational inequality. Disappointingly the politician's focussed on the numbers of students getting into University, over and above the real inequality issues such as housing, pensions (what will be dished out in the future) & debt - personal and national.

Clegg also indicated that the problem with housing is the "deposit". No it isn't, its the price.

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Miliband desperately wants to be elected, and I`m starting to hope that he is... :lol:

On the other hand, it could be quite funny watching Boris and George try to topple Dave while he's still in office.

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The HIV NHS tourism comment by Farage was very very stupid. I should imagine that will get spun and twisted by the Tory press tomorrow (and forever until the election).

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I noticed the resounding self righteous comeback's from Sturgeon and Bennet poised to glean some points. Edited by workingpoor

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I love the fact that EA Dave doesn't actually want to be re-elected. Imagine going to a job interview and making small talk with the interviewer about how you don't want to be in the job for too long.

"Ideal for the first-time buyer or as a buy to let investment."

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