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General Election 2015 - The Countdown

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Well, here we are again folks. It's Election fever time.....well not quite yet...if ever....errrr......hmm...

Your ears are destined to bleed for the next 7 weeks, your senses shattered by salvoes if lies, disinformation, propaganda, more lies, shouting, screeching, accusations of extremism and other fruit loopery. And that's before Diane Abbott has opened her mouth.

For my part, I fall firmly into the George Carlin school of thought. The one thing that the political class covets above everything else is LEGITIMACY because without your participation in this rotten, broken corrupted system, they are POWERLESS and they have NOTHING.

I don't believe the political class is legitimate. Most people don't even bother to vote, and quite frankly, I don't blame them so I'll be spoiling my ballot paper. None of these shysters will be getting my consent to steal my money, destroy my nation, steal my freedom and turn the UK into an Islamic caliphate

Politicians are lying, greedy, venal, corrupt ****$uckers who don't give a flying fekk about you, your family of any normal decent hardworking people. They are in it for themselves and every political party now (with the possible exception of UKIP.......yes I said "possible") is really just a bought and controlled vassal of the supranational banking/corporate elite.

They are vermin, a plague, an infestation

So having laid it on the line so to speak, I started this thread so you can vent your spleen and chuckle at the tsunami of duplicity and lies that is going to overwhelm your lives for the next few weeks.

Miliband has got us off to a cracking start. He never fails to disappoint. He has the social skills of a shop mannequin, the panache and charisma of woodchip wallpaper, the table manners of of a tramp with no teeth chewing a stale glass and bacon buttie.

Ed Miliband is facing embarrassment after businesses featured in a political advert about the risks of Britain leaving the EU distanced themselves from Labour.

Labour took out a full-page advert in the Financial Times featuring quotes from six of Britain's biggest business leaders warning about the risks of leaving the EU.

The advert has the tag-line: "The biggest risk to British business is the threat of an EU exit. Labour will put the national interest first. We will deliver reform, not exit.”

However, the quotes used in the advert were up to two years old and several of the companies quoted have raised concerns.

Yup! Cracking start for the Labour Party, whose election strategists seem to have been recruited from a comprehensive school in Luton. Congratulation Ed, you utter MONG

But rest assured, nobody will escape the ridicule and contempt that is so richly deserved!

Watch this space!

Edited by UK Debt Slave

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Your ears are destined to bleed for the next 7 weeks

Except they aren't because I'm not reading any newspapers or watching TV news. It's just drivel.

As long as UKIP get some seats and Farage gets a go in Parliament, I'll be happy.

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Except they aren't because I'm not reading any newspapers or watching TV news. It's just drivel.

As long as UKIP get some seats and Farage gets a go in Parliament, I'll be happy.

Yeah! But it'l be entertaining drivel! :)

There will be plenty of strategically placed banana skins for the cretins to trip up on!

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Here's one of the biggest lies that Labour keeps trying to perpetuate but has been debunked time and time again:

"The biggest party gets to form the government"

Pish.

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As long as UKIP get some seats and Farage gets a go in Parliament, I'll be happy.

I wouldn't be too confident.

There's a concerted campaign to marginalise and discredit UKIP in the right wing press - they are being well and truly positioned as the 'lunatic racist fringe' by The Sun, for example*

By all means don't read it, but other people are. The LibLabCon wagons are circling.

*many of them actually do appear to be, so this is pretty much shooting fish in a barrel – prime examples being the ‘ting tong’ comment, the recent expenses scandal, that old bitch in ‘meet the Ukippers’ who expressed her dislike of ‘negroes’ – how stupid can you get? The press don’t really have to try very hard to vilify them.

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Here's one of the biggest lies that Labour keeps trying to perpetuate but has been debunked time and time again:

"The biggest party gets to form the government"

Pish.

I get the feeling in Murphy's case its not a conscious lie, just plain ignorance. He's only a politician, why would he know anything about political history.

Galloway would have been perfect as labour leader in Scotland. (Un?)fortunately Galloway has principles and had enough of the warmongering bastards.

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I get the feeling in Murphy's case its not a conscious lie, just plain ignorance. He's only a politician, why would he know anything about political history.

Galloway would have been perfect as labour leader in Scotland. (Un?)fortunately Galloway has principles and had enough of the warmongering bastards.

He knows what he is saying is not true. He has been put right about it in a few interviews now but continues to keep telling the same lie.

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He knows what he is saying is not true. He has been put right about it in a few interviews now but continues to keep telling the same lie.

Fair dos...did not know that...he's never struck me as particularly worldly, thats all.

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The Scottish Labour leader and his party I feel have sadly misjudged the Scottish electorate. I think there campaign is actually winning votes for the SNP.

The SNP have been quite clear on their intentions should they win a large number of seats, with it being a coalition at that point they are more likely to get their way than should Labour get a majority. I feel the SNP would be foolish to align themselves with the Conservative party.

They could however force whoever is the largest party to try and run a minority government.

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The Scottish Labour leader and his party I feel have sadly misjudged the Scottish electorate. I think there campaign is actually winning votes for the SNP.

The SNP have been quite clear on their intentions should they win a large number of seats, with it being a coalition at that point they are more likely to get their way than should Labour get a majority. I feel the SNP would be foolish to align themselves with the Conservative party.

They could however force whoever is the largest party to try and run a minority government.

Why should they align themselves with anyone. Cant we have a hung parliament and vote issue by issue?

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None of these shysters will be getting my consent to steal my money, destroy my nation, steal my freedom and turn the UK into an Islamic caliphate

Rightyo.

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Well, here we are again folks. It's Election fever time.....well not quite yet...if ever....errrr......hmm...

Your ears are destined to bleed for the next 7 weeks, your senses shattered by salvoes if lies, disinformation, propaganda, more lies, shouting, screeching, accusations of extremism and other fruit loopery. And that's before Diane Abbott has opened her mouth.

For my part, I fall firmly into the George Carlin school of thought. The one thing that the political class covets above everything else is LEGITIMACY because without your participation in this rotten, broken corrupted system, they are POWERLESS and they have NOTHING.

I don't believe the political class is legitimate. Most people don't even bother to vote, and quite frankly, I don't blame them so I'll be spoiling my ballot paper. None of these shysters will be getting my consent to steal my money, destroy my nation, steal my freedom and turn the UK into an Islamic caliphate

Politicians are lying, greedy, venal, corrupt ****$uckers who don't give a flying fekk about you, your family of any normal decent hardworking people. They are in it for themselves and every political party now (with the possible exception of UKIP.......yes I said "possible") is really just a bought and controlled vassal of the supranational banking/corporate elite.

They are vermin, a plague, an infestation

So having laid it on the line so to speak, I started this thread so you can vent your spleen and chuckle at the tsunami of duplicity and lies that is going to overwhelm your lives for the next few weeks.

Miliband has got us off to a cracking start. He never fails to disappoint. He has the social skills of a shop mannequin, the panache and charisma of woodchip wallpaper, the table manners of of a tramp with no teeth chewing a stale glass and bacon buttie.

Yup! Cracking start for the Labour Party, whose election strategists seem to have been recruited from a comprehensive school in Luton. Congratulation Ed, you utter MONG

But rest assured, nobody will escape the ridicule and contempt that is so richly deserved!

Watch this space!

don't diss the luton kids.

it's rough area so most of them are pretty streetwise.

a class of 11 year old lutonians would take one look at milliband,and their eyes would light up(predatory style) to give young milliband another taster of the treatment he had last time he was in school

it would be quite a crazy photo op in truth..he goes there to give it large about labours education policies, and he ends up boxed into the corner being mugged for his dinner money(again)

he wants education,he'll get it in luton alright.

he will be faced with the stark reality that people are still "gang" minded, and his fuzzy wuzzy socialist utopia won't stand a chance against people who can and will beat you up if you are seen as an easy target.

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Yes, the countdown begins.....again.

Around about 15 years ago I began spoiling my paper in general elections and usually didn't vote but did occasionally in other local elections etc. This was initially because of disillusionment with how things are in the world in general. But increasingly because of growing revulsion towards the world of politics, bankers and corporations due to questioning everything and becoming even more disillusioned.

However, last year when the poll was published showing 59 for independence in scotland and 41 against I was awoken from my slumbers. In two weeks I morphed from being an apathetic non voter to one who relished putting a cross in the box. For a Yes vote.

The reason I became engaged to vote in the referendum was because although I know deep down that nothing much is going to change in the world, I fancy that I sensed the Westminster panic that poll produced. I found a lot of it hilarious but a lot of it was also deeply disturbing about the state of the uk and wider world.

I'm glad I voted Yes in the scottish referendum because I think the large yes vote has challenged main party politicians.

Having thought about it I'm going to vote in the general election because I thing my vote can add again to challenging the main parties. I do realise though that I'm not voting for candy land!

For me, this general election is more interesting than usual because I fancy it's not likely to be a two party race.

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Why should they align themselves with anyone. Cant we have a hung parliament and vote issue by issue?

No, and yes....

I'm led to believe that a party leader must command a majority in the house, and that is proven by an initial vote of confidence. I've no doubt it has some archaic name, but I can't think of it off the top of my head. If you vote for labour, you have initially aligned yourself with them.

Of course, once Milliband has changed his postal address to Downing Street, any small party is not bound to support him going forward. If any small party who holds the balance wishes, it could play merry hell with Parliamentary procedure. It could scupper any government legislation, but also vote down any vote of no-confidence. In essence negating a whole 5-year parliament, and exposing the cesspit for what it really is.

Unfortunately that small party will not be the SNP. I doubt they have the cojones.

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Can anyone tell me of a year in history when the economy was doing better after a Labour government barring immediately post war

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Can anyone tell me of a year in history when the economy was doing better after a Labour government barring immediately post war

I don't believe such a mythical creature exists, weren't the tories pushing that point at the weekend?

With all the 'good news' economic headlines coming one after the other, labour are going to struggle to gain any ground on the tories over the next 5 weeks. I did hear someone mention that the DEBT has doubled over the last parliament, but can't remember who it was. THAT is the only card they can play re the economy....

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I don't believe such a mythical creature exists, weren't the tories pushing that point at the weekend?

With all the 'good news' economic headlines coming one after the other, labour are going to struggle to gain any ground on the tories over the next 5 weeks. I did hear someone mention that the DEBT has doubled over the last parliament, but can't remember who it was. THAT is the only card they can play re the economy....

Yup. The coalition has continued to spend spend spend like drunkards but Labour can hardly use this as a trump card since they did exactly the same.

Fact is, government is going to get bigger, more powerful, more invasive and even more expensive whoever gets elected.

No end of the madness in sight.....

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Can anyone tell me of a year in history when the economy was doing better after a Labour government barring immediately post war

Nope

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I don't believe such a mythical creature exists, weren't the tories pushing that point at the weekend?

With all the 'good news' economic headlines coming one after the other, labour are going to struggle to gain any ground on the tories over the next 5 weeks. I did hear someone mention that the DEBT has doubled over the last parliament, but can't remember who it was. THAT is the only card they can play re the economy....

I can't understand why anyone would want to vote Labour when the evidence is that clear. Just some misguided loyalty and apathy following tradition or voting to keep their public sector non job

The Tories can't win, austerity v debt is a nonsense, especially when dealing with the locked in damage the last bunch of clowns caused,

Couple that with Ed being utterly unelectable it's a surprise to me people are considering voting Labour

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I can't understand why anyone would want to vote Labour when the evidence is that clear. Just some misguided loyalty and apathy following tradition or voting to keep their public sector non job

The Tories can't win, austerity v debt is a nonsense, especially when dealing with the locked in damage the last bunch of clowns caused,

Couple that with Ed being utterly unelectable it's a surprise to me people are considering voting Labour

The cultural ascendency of the left is very frightening because it is based on brainwashing and a series of fear driven half truths.

Socialism is more like a cult or religion than a political ideology

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The cultural ascendency of the left is very frightening because it is based on brainwashing and a series of fear driven half truths.

Socialism is more like a cult or religion than a political ideology

I share that but just want some statistical proof that they have never done a good job when in office,

Any contact I have ever had with a Socialist has left be bemused at their failure to understand even the basics about where money comes from to pay for their schemes or the fact their support is just hereditary and they actually understand sod all

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