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The war in Ukraine has sent shock waves through Eastern Europe, and nowhere more so than in the Baltics.

The Kremlin’s aggression since Russia’s annexation of Crimea has blurred the lines of the impossible.

Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, all North Atlantic Treaty Organization member states, fear a Russian attack.

In tiny Lithuania the threat from Moscow feels so real that the country plans to reintroduce military conscription.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/03/15/lithuania-prepares-for-a-feared-russian-invasion/

Lithuania is part of the EU, so an invasion could easily drag other EU countries into war with Russia. Germany is sending 500 troops - "Our allies are ready to fulfil the obligation to boost Lithuania's security together with us"

Why has this not been reported by anyone in the UK media?

Anyone for a nice little flat in Vilnius for 34K ?

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They're completely nuts, of course.

But maybe they figured, like Ukraine, if they shout and scream enough 'the Russians are coming' they too will get loadsamoney and stuff they don't deserve from dippy US senators.

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But maybe they figured, like Ukraine, if they shout and scream enough 'the Russians are coming' they too will get loadsamoney and stuff they don't deserve from dippy US senators.

So the Russians haven't annexed the Crimea and occupied large parts of the west of the country.

Phew, I was getting worried for a moment.

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So the Russians haven't annexed the Crimea and occupied large parts of the west of the country.

Phew, I was getting worried for a moment.

I consider it more something like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Equatorial_Guinea_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

This isnt political, its economic. Nothing to do with Putin, or even Russia in a political sense.

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The Americans will loan them the money - via the IMF, to buy tons of American arms to ward off a non-extstant Russian threat that has been puffed up recently by the US media. They have form for this sort of thing. The EU will eventually wind up bailing Lithuania (like Greece) out to repay the IMF.

I noticed that the new Greek government only knocked the EU and not the IMF, probably because they know the crooks in Wall St would bomb them if they missed a payment. Even though it was an American bank (Goldman Sachs) that fiddled the figures to get Greece in the eurozone to begin with.

If I were Russian I would be more worried about the encroaching, US controlled NATO arms buildup on my borders, rather than just a gullible EU state falling for arms industry backed propaganda.

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This isnt political, its economic. Nothing to do with Putin, or even Russia in a political sense.

Yep, no Russian troops or arms at all are in Ukraine, move along folks there's nothing to see.

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If there's any crap going on in the world, you can bet your bottom dollar that the yanks are behind it. A rogue state.

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Not in the capacity of the russian army, no.

Course not, not even in the Crimea that Russia formally annexed.

They're all volunteers who've deserted from the Russian army, taking their guns, tanks and anti-aircraft weapons with 'em. They're not there under orders at all, they'll all be rounded up and jailed as soon as they step back into Russia. The Malaysian Airline plane full of Western civilians was shot down by a Ukrianian SU-25 in plot to involve evil imperialist west in attack on mother Russia.

How could anyone possibly think otherwise.

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Course not, not even in the Crimea that Russia formally annexed.

They're all volunteers who've deserted from the Russian army, taking their guns, tanks and anti-aircraft weapons with 'em. They're not there under orders at all, they'll all be rounded up and jailed as soon as they step back into Russia. The Malaysian Airline plane full of Western civilians was shot down by a Ukrianian SU-25 in plot to involve evil imperialist west in attack on mother Russia.

How could anyone possibly think otherwise.

Crimea was just the return of russian territory...if the Ukranians were decent enough to offer a referendum as the scots had, none of that would have been necessary.

Whats going on now is clearly seperate.

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So the Russians haven't annexed the Crimea and occupied large parts of the west of the country.

Phew, I was getting worried for a moment.

It's a bit of a stretch to extrapolate the Russians preventing Sevastopol being absorbed into NATO to "clearly the Russians must have an interest in every tin pot country along their border." Unless there's any actual evidence to the contrary it smells very much of fear mongering for political ends.

I'd say Vin Rouge's summary just about hits the nail on the head.

Edited by libspero

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It's a bit of a stretch to extrapolate the Russians preventing Sevastopol being absorbed into NATO to "clearly the Russians must have an interest in every tin pot country along their border." Unless there's any actual evidence to the contrary it smells very much of fear mongering for political ends.

I'd say Vin Rouge's summary just about hits the nail on the head.

I wonder if anyone out there is trying to decide on whether to spend a few trillions on some new nuclear weapons...?

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Maybe a practice run for the UK - the UK had better get re-arming. It's all getting very cold war.

In the meantime the Conservatives are occupied with pumping up house prices.

Edited by billybong

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Lithuania is part of the EU, so an invasion could easily drag other EU countries into war with Russia. Germany is sending 500 troops - "Our allies are ready to fulfil the obligation to boost Lithuania's security together with us"

Why has this not been reported by anyone in the UK media?

Anyone for a nice little flat in Vilnius for 34K ?

Do the Lithuanian powers-that-be expect the Lithuanian people to elect a president who seeks closer ties with Russia, then for that president to be deposed by western-inspired unrest in the capital? Do they oppress so many of their own people as to have regions and populations that would turn to Russia for help in the event of a crisis (such as the deposing of that hypothetically-elected president)?

Or is this a cynical play on historic tensions and fears?

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The issue potentially arises from a Russian perspective where there are large numbers of ethnic Russians in the neighbouring country who very often are at least the source of suspicion.

Of course these Russians were settled in these places by Stalin et al. For instance the true natives of Crimea are the Tatars but they were resettled to Uzbekistan to die off in large numbers for being disloyal.

It is now a source of destabilisation and I think potentially the only 'peaceful' way this can be resolved is if all the various peoples went to their 'home' countries just as occurred at the end of the second world war. And then start again with the free movement of peoples in Europe on an individual basis rather than a patchwork quilt of one settled type living adjacent to other areas of a different ethnic type. Where there is a predominance, and is logical, it makes sense to re-draw maps rather than force the majority to move. But it has to be based on contiguity.

Erm, there's a lot more history than that. Kiev was capital of Russia long before Moscow ever was. Crimea has a long history of being as Russian as anywhere, and the Rus were alternately fighting and allying with the Tatars in an era when the Romans ruled Britain. Their borders have a long history of being fluid and ill-defined. Stalin wasn't Russian, and his role in today's map of russian-speaking people was, at best, marginal.

Ukraine's troubles stem from the West overreaching. Destabilise and depose an elected president once, call it an Orange Revolution, and you get away with it. Do the same a second time - after years of total basketcase "orange" government - and it's hardly surprising that the people who kept being denied their democratic choice didn't take it lying down.

[edit to clarify] Stalin was Russian in his time, because his native Georgia was part of the Russian empire in his time, before the era of the Soviet Union. When I say he wasn't Russian, that's in modern terms, with Georgia being a separate country.

Edited by porca misèria

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The yanks are taking the piss trying to turn a Russian speaking state on the the Russian border full of ethnic Russians into an American crony vassal state.

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Absolutely the yanks have no concept of flow and reasonableness in a diplomatic sense. Granted the bombing of Isis is welcome but they created the conditions for their rise in the first place.

As for Lithuania the current generation of Lithuanians are thieving , conniving and violent a completely different breed from their forefathers. Since the wall has come down they have shattered the Lit ex pat community and destroyed assets that took 50 years to build in the UK. Stealing or destroying millions of pounds

To boot look at the top 10 foreign criminal list the Lits are right up there not bad for a small country

They don't deserve our support having squandered the peace dividend blood was shed for in 1990 and in the years from 1945 till then

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