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I have been on here since early 2007, (registered in 2008). I'd say I come on here generally between 1 to 5 times a day but I do occasionally go through busy periods where I am not looking for maybe 3-5 days, sometimes a couple of weeks.

I re-read the Serpico posts today at work, fascinating as ever... Made me feel a bit empty again, first time I read it I was struck by the random nature of success and how some people fluke success whilst others struggle all their lives for very little.

I'm not on here to make a big point or anything, just to say I'm a lurker really. I am watching you all!

I've got my fingers crossed for the big crash still, there seems like little else I can do other than wish for it these days.

Pip pip...

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Guy I've been working with for a few months saw me looking at HPC the other week. We've never really discussed matters such, his reaction was something along the lines of "housepricecrash, love that site".... Made me laugh... feels like a secret club....

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Not so secret.

I think what I love about this website is that it allows you to call into question really convenient memes. There's no earthly reason a house should cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to 'buy'

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I think what I love about this website is that it allows you to call into question really convenient memes. There's no earthly reason a house should cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to 'buy'

+ 1.

A chap I work with is in the same boat as me. Shelling ship loads per month to rent some inadequate digs. We have had leftist whinges about the cost of housing and how landlords should be made to pay some type of tax, or made harder for the amateurs to get into BTL. I ought to tell him about this site. :D

Trouble is, this site is perceived as a bit 'anarchic' - for want of a better word. That's the feedback I've received.

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For me, when I started reading it everyday, I had a 'red pill' moment when I realised how much of everyday conversation is either made up about house prices or BTL property speculation. It's like the weather, a 'neutral' topic of conversation. Saying 'on a square footage basis, that house is only really worth a quarter of that price' is enough to make people think you're mad. People are incapable of thinking about property rationally. There's no value in 'the light', a 'nice neighbourhood' or a postcode. In Germany, there isn't. A lot of this is unthinking ways of expressing hopes and desires about life goals, prosperity and meaning to otherwise tragically meaningless existences.

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+ 1.

A chap I work with is in the same boat as me. Shelling ship loads per month to rent some inadequate digs. We have had leftist whinges about the cost of housing and how landlords should be made to pay some type of tax, or made harder for the amateurs to get into BTL. I ought to tell him about this site. :D

Trouble is, this site is perceived as a bit 'anarchic' - for want of a better word. That's the feedback I've received.

Trouble with this site is it doesn't allow anyone with opposing views on here.

Instantly labelled an estate agent etc.. when lets be honest prices havent crashed since 2003 when they should have with the exception of a dip in 08/09 before the props went up.

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Trouble with this site is it doesn't allow anyone with opposing views on here.

Instantly labelled an estate agent etc.. when lets be honest prices havent crashed since 2003 when they should have with the exception of a dip in 08/09 before the props went up.

You been labelled an EA for some post have you. I guess other posters are suspicious at times, when presented with forever HPI positions.

Present opposing views all you like if they have substance, but some that get put up are just VI dumb complacent. PopGun is on here for some of that, and I notice you recently agree with him on one anti-HPC point. Mods have stopped some of those who are gleeful HPIers on MSE. Actually a quick glance at some of your recent posts, you're not exactly hopeful of HPC are you. You might as well be on MSE.

The crash involves prices rising for me, so its non existent except in the minds of a few on HPC website.

I'm in Borehamwood for a couple of days, yesterday i walked past an estate agency and £450,000 gets you some not very nice looking semi, if this is a HPC crash i'm not too sure why i bothered signing up.

We don't get instant HPC just because Samboy signed up. Why don't you just buy and get it over with - assuming you don't already own. Friends of mine bought in Borehamwood 18 or so months ago, helped by Bomad; elderly couple now rattling around in their large family home, all 3 of their children having bought homes.

PopGun: "The nutters would rather write off mortgage debt then let prices fall"

I think that is very close to how it will play out in the long run.

FFLS has been extended for buytolet, help to buy 1 and 2 will run forever and be extended this is something that coke snifffing cnt has already said, 0.5 and QE are here forever.

Couldn't agree more but i think Gidiot, Schapps and Dave are so out of touch and utterly clueless they'll see house prices being propped up for as long as they can as being something that keeps their ageing voters happy. And Carney is the placeman who is experienced at this

And if you see the forecasts for where Tory growth is going to come from after the election, they are telling us huge swathes of it is going to come from private sector borrowing.

I hope there is big private sector borrowing; put me on the list when house prices crash. I've already said debt is the solution. Write a £Trillion in new debt against a 50% prime HPC. All that equity/houses owned outright by older owners, is dead money for the banks.

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Trouble with this site is it doesn't allow anyone with opposing views on here.

Instantly labelled an estate agent etc.. when lets be honest prices havent crashed since 2003 when they should have with the exception of a dip in 08/09 before the props went up.

yep, found this:

http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/house-price-crash-hpc-website-mentality/

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Exactly how it should be versus all the HPI complacent tw4ts out there, at super bubble values.

Opposing positions are so extreme; it's agree to disagree, or fight. Si1 calls it war, and I agree.

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And the landlord of that site was seemingly having a wobble the other month, on the old vision of glorious HPI... he's welcome to his landlord life.

http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/become-landlord/

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And the landlord of that site was seemingly having a wobble the other month, on the old vision of glorious HPI... he's welcome to his landlord life.

http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/become-landlord/

Whilst i wish that person nothing but misery, healthy debate is a good thing.

As lets be honest i've read several comments from folk who didnt buy pre 2005 or in the dip due to advice on here and they wish they did.

Not one person from HPC predicted the lengths the state would go to, to protect and reinflate the bubble.

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Whilst i wish that person nothing but misery, healthy debate is a good thing.

As lets be honest i've read several comments from folk who didnt buy pre 2005 or in the dip due to advice on here and they wish they did.

Not one person from HPC predicted the lengths the state would go to, to protect and reinflate the bubble.

We don't need you rubbing it in, with depressing no-HPC posts. I think you're an EA too / or anti-HPC.

"No sure why I signed up to HPC?"... 7 Jan 2015.... what suffering you've been through during past few weeks, yet it's possible you've been around in other forms in the past; going back to 2004-05 regrets - of course you could have just done lot of reading/older posts.

I will hold out; the banks can handle 35% HPC and a whole gamut of other things like hard recession, whilst into the reflation they've been offloading bad positions and restructuring... really get the sense you doubt HPC or trying to persuade others here it's over for us... might as well buy.

Just why are you prioritising these opposing views as so required on HPC? Been banned before? You sure know a lot about it. We link to forever HPI/No HPC positions all the time on other forums and in MSM. We fully are aware of other positions for forever HPI, no HPC etc. No need to have them plastered all over the forum, when most of them hold very little substance. Including your last run of depressing posts. Also if you really believe TPTB won't let it happen, forever 0.5% stimulus... then why are you here?

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Trouble with this site is it doesn't allow anyone with opposing views on here.

Instantly labelled an estate agent etc.. when lets be honest prices havent crashed since 2003 when they should have with the exception of a dip in 08/09 before the props went up.

It is night V day in the housing market since the crash in `08, London may have been pumped back up in the stats, but the days when anyone could buy and sell and make money are long gone. That will do for me just now, next thing up is whole countries defaulting, not just households, and I notice the war drums are banging loudly......

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We don't need you rubbing it in, with depressing no-HPC posts. I think you're an EA too / or anti-HPC.

"No sure why I signed up to HPC?"... 7 Jan 2015.... what suffering you've been through during past few weeks, yet it's possible you've been around in other forms in the past; going back to 2004-05 regrets - of course you could have just done lot of reading/older posts.

I will hold out; the banks can handle 35% HPC and a whole gamut of other things like hard recession, whilst into the reflation they've been offloading bad positions and restructuring... really get the sense you doubt HPC or trying to persuade others here it's over for us... might as well buy.

Just why are you prioritising these opposing views as so required on HPC? Been banned before? You sure know a lot about it. We link to forever HPI/No HPC positions all the time on other forums and in MSM. We fully are aware of other positions for forever HPI, no HPC etc. No need to have them plastered all over the forum, when most of them hold very little substance. Including your last run of depressing posts. Also if you really believe TPTB won't let it happen, forever 0.5% stimulus... then why are you here?

He has sneaked over the wire from MSE, it is pretty obvious, I think it is Wotsit or Acorn, maybe even HamPish trying to offset the madness as Aberdeen sinks beneath the waves :lol:

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I think you're an EA too / or anti-HPC.

Came to the same opinion after reading his early post's.

His tactics reminds me pretty much of the deep entryist militant tendency type that use to hang around in the Labour Party during the 1980's.

He has no solid equilibrium position from which his analysis takes place and thus his comments read as inauthentic.

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Trouble with this site is it doesn't allow anyone with opposing views on here.

Instantly labelled an estate agent etc.. when lets be honest prices havent crashed since 2003 when they should have with the exception of a dip in 08/09 before the props went up.

There are some excellent,informative debtates on here between people with opposing views.

If you can't take the heat etc...

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Whilst i wish that person nothing but misery, healthy debate is a good thing.

As lets be honest i've read several comments from folk who didnt buy pre 2005 or in the dip due to advice on here and they wish they did.

Not one person from HPC predicted the lengths the state would go to, to protect and reinflate the bubble.

Not one person had even heard of QE, but it came out of the woodwork of Central Bankers.

Few even knew about the rackets of the Shadow Banking "system" as they call it, a network of traders dealing in the "products" of the banks, making a "wall of money" appear with a menu of reasons for public, regulator and Government consumption, excluding the actual reason for its existence....Fraud, lies and deceipt, systemic from mortgage to Pension fund investment.

HPC pointed out, investigated, taught us what these things were, the reason why they were ignored, encouraged, kept alive by a banking system that has its financialised hands closed on the throats of the West.

Yes, HPC is a great place to learn.

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Not one person had even heard of QE, but it came out of the woodwork of Central Bankers.

Few even knew about the rackets of the Shadow Banking "system" as they call it, a network of traders dealing in the "products" of the banks, making a "wall of money" appear with a menu of reasons for public, regulator and Government consumption, excluding the actual reason for its existence....Fraud, lies and deceipt, systemic from mortgage to Pension fund investment.

HPC pointed out, investigated, taught us what these things were, the reason why they were ignored, encouraged, kept alive by a banking system that has its financialised hands closed on the throats of the West.

Yes, HPC is a great place to learn.

Pretty much sums up the situation and if anythign the state of the State and the bankers behind it and in front of everyone else is worse than before. Hence the destruction will be worse, I tmay not come directly in the popping of the bubbles that they themselves create but it most certainly will affect the lifetime earnings and living standards of everyone else, their work opportunities and the price and availability services they will eventually rely on. Safe to say that most did not realise how utterly corrupt the system had become. The economy looks and functions more like a racket than a market.

Good general point by the OP in regards luck. You need a fair amount of it nowadays and the discrepancy between being a little unlucky and a little lucky is widening with the widening wage differential. Even in the same work areas with the same skills some jobs will pay multiples of the others purely by association with certain companies/markets/practicies/locations. It is far more fo a crap shoot thatn it was a few decades ago.

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