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Sprouting New Limbs, Isis Raises Fears Of Unending War

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Sprouting New Limbs, ISIS Raises Fears of Unending War

By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK


The Islamic State is expanding beyond its base in Syria and Iraq to establish militant affiliates in Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt and Libya, raising the prospect of a new global war on terror.

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    The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that is exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and has been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three superstates, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed forever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This--although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense--is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.

    Orwell 1984

    I've just been reading that Al Qaeda have different political timeframe to western leaders they don't expect to succeed in their lifetime, the objective is long term. But this fits perfectly with Orwell's idea of perpetual war.

    I'm still waiting for the US and Al Qaeda to join up together to help defeat ISIS. Fighting an enemy with no country means fear can be spread everywhere.

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Sprouting New Limbs, ISIS Raises Fears of Unending War

By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

The Islamic State is expanding beyond its base in Syria and Iraq to establish militant affiliates in Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt and Libya, raising the prospect of a new global war on terror.

  • I've just been reading that Al Qaeda have different political timeframe to western leaders they don't expect to succeed in their lifetime, the objective is long term. But this fits perfectly with Orwell's idea of perpetual war.

I heard somewhere recently that a captured Al Qaeda fighter said to a US soldier...

"You have watches. We have time...."

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I heard somewhere recently that a captured Al Qaeda fighter said to a US soldier...

"You have watches. We have time...."

Didnt the IRA say something similar to Thatcher?

You need to be lucky everytime. We need to be lucky only once.

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The media making a big point about IS being only 500 miles from Rome.

The Muslim hordes have been closer than that before..

The suffering of what is left of Christian communities in that part of the world is horrific. Even Muslim colleagues have told me this.

It is all posturing for who is the true enemy of isreal/the infidels etc, a kind of politics

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More than 4,000 U.S. troops head to Kuwait as Obama seeks approval from Congress to use military force against Islamic State terrorists

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The President has ruled out large-scale U.S. ground combat operations similar to those in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he asked for the option to use military force against Islamic State fighters for three years.

Armed police patrol GCHQ for the first time amid heightened fears of a 'lone wolf' terror attack after Copenhagen atrocity

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Security has been tightened after the attacks in Copenhagen by lone gunman Omar Abdel Hamid El-Hussein and MI5 believes it is 'only a matter of time' before a similar attack in Britain.

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Execution came days after the former Libyan PM warned that the group would reach Mediterranean
So the US about to commit troops to a ground war in Iraq again and Europe on the brink of being over run my Muslim hordes?

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21 coptic christians beheaded by IS in Libya.

It's almost as though bombing Libya and killing Gaddafi was a really bad idea.

But, hey, this time it will all work out right.

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It's almost as though bombing Libya and killing Gaddafi was a really bad idea.

But, hey, this time it will all work out right.

He was our best customer! :unsure:

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Armed police patrol GCHQ for the first time amid heightened fears of a 'lone wolf' terror attack after Copenhagen atrocity

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Security has been tightened after the attacks in Copenhagen by lone gunman Omar Abdel Hamid El-Hussein and MI5 believes it is 'only a matter of time' before a similar attack in Britain.

The perception that the general population are potential enemies is becoming well developed, isn't it?

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I can't imagine Saddam allowing this kind of behaviour either. Not that we were ever on first name terms...

He was a very good customer, until somebody decided he wasn't. :wacko:

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Obama To Allow "Moderate" Syrian Rebels Call In B-1B Bombers For Air Support

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While Obama desperately tries to stick to his now crushed "Nobel peace prize winner" image, by not succumbing to an all-out land war in the one nation where his progressive "pacifism" brought him fame (and according to some, the presidency), namely Iraq, the rest of militant, "interventionist" US foreign policy is rapidly starting to resemble that waged by the most brutally rabid, neo-con Republican leader. Case in point an absolute stunner reported minutes ago by the WSJ, according to which the White House has decided to provide pickup trucks equipped with mounted machine guns and radios for calling in U.S. airstrikes to some moderate Syrian rebels aided by American B-1B bombers!

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State Dept: "We Can't Beat ISIS By Killing Them..." They Need Jobs

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State Department spokesperson Marie Harf explains to no lesser pillar of unbiased reporting than Chris Matthews that - as opposed to President Obama's 'bomb them into oblivion' perspective, "we can't kill our way out of this war [with ISIS]... we must address the root causes - like joblessness." Even Matthews is stunned at this perspective, exclaiming "we're never going to chieve that in 50 lifetimes, there'll always be poor muslims." But, as the administration appears to be suggesting, even every radical muslim deserves $10.25 an hour to work at Baghdad McDonalds...

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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/whos-funding-isis-wealthy-gulf-angel-investors-officials-say-n208006

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"These rich Arabs are like what 'angel investors' are to tech start-ups, except they are interested in starting up groups who want to stir up hatred," said Stavridis, now the dean of the Fletcher School of Diplomacy at Tufts University. "Groups like al-Nusrah and ISIS are better investments for them. The individuals act as high rollers early, providing seed money. Once the groups are on their feet, they are perfectly capable of raising funds through other means, like kidnapping, oil smuggling, selling women into slavery, etc."

Stavridis and other current U.S. officials suggest that the biggest share of the individual donations supporting ISIS and the most radical groups comes from Qatar rather than Saudi Arabia, and that the Qatari government has done less to stop the flow than its neighbors in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. One U.S. official said the Saudis are "more in line with U.S. foreign policy" than the Qataris.

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